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this hole radiates for the massive

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headliner before you likely might be a

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felony the Army Air Force was announced

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that a flying dead person found and is

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now in the possession of the army the

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game is rigged change things change

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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fade to black with your host Jimmy

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church on the game-changer radio network

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I need your help to get to the year 1985

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you're listening to Thank You black with

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man man man

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how you doing fade to black the smoke

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radio for the masses that's right

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today's Wednesday May 17th 136 days into

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the new year just 229 days left we are

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live from a bunker somewhere in downtown

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Burbank California and I would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world all across the United States

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is there until they're 2 and throw back

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and forth up and down east and west

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north and south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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game changer network and Katie are a the

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planet I'm your host Jim you Church what

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is cracking everybody it's Wednesday

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yeah man that means it's a special date

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or night now yeah

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we're gonna have a few drive-bys from

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from our friends our fate or not some

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guests you know stuff like that we're

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going to open up the phone lines we're

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doing fader night tonight because

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tomorrow night we're taking off so I'm

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giving you the heads-up on that once

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again this week tomorrow night's we'll

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be hanging out at the Joshua Tree saloon

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with all of you will be arriving in

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Joshua Tree tomorrow afternoon

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pretty much all packed up and ready to

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go excited contacting the desert is this

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weekend you can follow us on twitter at

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JT radio facebook youtube

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everything is fade to black to mature

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shimmy Church radio whatever you know

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what to do go follow like and subscribe

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right now oh man what a crazy crazy

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24-48 hours has been in this country

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hasn't it it's going to be good to get

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away get out to contact in the desert

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and you know the thing is one when Reid

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and I get away like we're about to do

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with with all of you know news right for

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four straight days that's no news the

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only thing my cell phone will be used

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for is is texting and phone calls that's

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it now no nothing totally disconnected

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community and in a really good time

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world I don't care what goes down we're

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not going to find out about it and

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that's great really really look forward

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to that kind of get away from this

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madness of this last 48 hours just

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absolute craziness I mean you know so

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anyway moving on from any of that follow

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us on Twitter I teach a church radio

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hashtag f2b

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is where we do it in the sandbox on

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Twitter and then hashtag f2b Q is fade

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questions and we just said no selfies no

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when he selfies no no well I'll do

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selfies with sooo close no okay that's

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stage right you know all those rock

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stars do it they turn around and they

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then then you do that alright maybe I'll

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do one of those welcome to everybody

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that's hanging out on the bunker cam oh

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and as you saw the pandemonium going

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man it's fader night opening up the

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fault lines we've got two phone lines

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for fate or night and we'll get to those

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lines oh we gotta now this is what I've

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did like six drive-bys the next thing

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and that's not what I want to do tonight

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I want the fader Knotts to call in if

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you are going to contact in the desert

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and prepping and getting ready listen to

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the show as you're packing your bags and

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you're getting ready to fly out tomorrow

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the country right now I'm you're

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listening to the show call in we want to

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hear from you okay seriously this is

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your night and that's what I'm looking

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forward to so we've got a few few

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friends that are going to drive by and

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and say hello to all of you and and

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those are all going to be very very

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brief phone calls okay alright so who it

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scheduled most of the people that we've

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traveling okay they're actually

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traveling so we're trying to pull that

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airports planes trains and automobiles

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open lines we have two phone lines

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tonight three two three eight two five

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the tongue don't they all right now

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let's just get a couple of things out of

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contact in the desert that is tomorrow

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if you're going to be a late arrival

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there tickets and info over at Jupiter

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radio calm and contact in the desert

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we've got three events going on this

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weekend we'll be talking about that all

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night tonight moving on off of that we

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4th of July seminar and conference

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science spirit and world transformation

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tickets and info over at e SETI org we

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all right now and we just confirmed a

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Corey's conference in August we put up

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the links for that last night that's

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and I will be emceeing that event and I

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look forward to everybody hanging out up

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there man began Mount Shasta right

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think about that Mount Shasta during the

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man that's closer that's Steven

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Spielberg stuff right there alright

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let's keep the show crackin got a lot to

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happy birthday to today Enya is 56 years

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old and I like Enya always did very cool

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stuff and it allowed her to buy the half

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of Ireland that bono doesn't own think

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about that for a second also today from

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over the pond Craig Ferguson today is 55

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and Trent Reznor today is 52 our dead

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guys birthday today is Bill Paxton

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yeah trip on that huh 1955 to 2017 each

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year on this day

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I've always enjoyed talking about Bill

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and and weird science and his role as

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Chet you know what I mean who would have

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thought that this year he would be our

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dead guy's birthday absolutely crazy

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died at the age of 61 back in February

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blew everybody's mind a little

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complication for heart surgery and the

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next thing you know right oh man and and

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and you know he had the best doctors and

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the best Hospital and the best

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consultation and he knew what was going

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on and with all of that right to

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something that was merely routine and he

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dies at the age of 61 there you go one

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of the greats Bill Paxton really good in

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that show big love to as well you know

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and then you have won twister right

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Titanic oh man aliens

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ah man Bill Paxton there you go 1955 to

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2017 on the state in history

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oh t be on may 17th 1970 I remember this

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like it was yesterday for some reason

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Thor Heyerdahl and his crew set out from

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Morocco across the Atlantic in the raw

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to remember that a papyrus sailboat

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modeled after ancient Egyptian sailing

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vessels and Heyerdahl was attempting to

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prove his theory that mediterranean

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civilizations sailed to america in

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ancient times and exchanged info and

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cultures with people of Central and

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South America the Ratu crossed the 4,000

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miles of ocean to Barbados in 57 days

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and I'll remember the documentary I you

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know and that's 1970 the documentary is

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probably 71 so I was 8 years old I guess

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documentary on TV and the boat the raw 2

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was sinking remember that the papyrus

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edge

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gotten so waterlogged at that point but

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it made it it made it and it proved that

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well it proved that the boat get maked

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and I think we all agree that Egypt made

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it all around the world let alone the

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Barbados in Central and South America

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fader fact in new jersey this is a fact

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and it's been vetted always vet right

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that's what we were talking about last

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night right always bet I like the I like

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the little Enya gift that's pretty cool

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there she is she lives in a castle now

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you should see the property and that she

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has over there in Ireland the Rolling

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Hills the forest the fairies pretty

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incredible anyway yeah where she lives

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those lawn gnomes are real they're

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actually real dudes or foot tall they

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maintain the property over there in New

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Jersey it's illegal to wear a

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bulletproof vest while committing a

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violent crime and that's a fact tonight

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it's a very special Fator night yes yes

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we're going to have a few friends so

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stop by and hang out for a few minutes

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and the rest of it is going to be all of

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you all of you favor nights tomorrow

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night we're taking the night off and and

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we have announced it so it's not that

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that net secret of of a deal right if

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you're going to be in Joshua Tree go and

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find the Joshua Tree saloon that's all

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you got to do somehow find parking walk

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in the door and look at all the shirts

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that's all you got to do and that'll be

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tomorrow night I don't know exactly what

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time we're going to arrive there but you

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know you guys have probably be in full

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swing by the time that we do but that's

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what we're going to do tomorrow night

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okay and then Friday night we're going

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to broadcast live from contact in the

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desert now checked is that what I'm

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about to lay on to you was posted on

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Wikileaks and it's guaranteed to confirm

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your worst nightmare whatever that

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nightmare may be it's probably what I'm

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about to read to you right and it's

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going to confirm it it's crazy so I'm

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just going to lay it out like this this

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is the title of the telegram the post

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the cable the top-secret cable and the

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title at the top of said cable says

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these words alerting

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Geor of delivery of seized ATU during

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September 21st FBI directors trip to

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Moscow the date 2009 August 17 1956 that

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is the time on a Monday the idea the

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cable is after that I do nine state

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eight five five eight eight underscore a

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original classification secret current

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classification secret and then and the

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cable is long and I'm going to get to

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that in just a second but number six the

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cables numbered and paragraph number six

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says secret related Russia action

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request embassy Moscow was requested to

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alert at the highest appropriate level

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the Russian Federation that FBI director

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Mueller right okay yeah

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plans to deliver the ATU sample once he

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arrives to Moscow on September 21st post

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is requested to convey information in

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paragraph five I'll get to that in a

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second with regard to chain of custody

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and to request details on Russian

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Federation's plan for picking up the

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material embassy is also requested to

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reconfirm the April 16th understanding

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from the FSB the Russian security

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service

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verbally that we will have no problem

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with the Russian Ministry of aviation

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concerning Mueller September 21st flight

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clearance holy crap I mean what is going

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on there right here's the response this

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is a paragraph number seven post is

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requested to deliver the following

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talking points we wish to inform you

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that FBI director Mueller plans to

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arrive in Moscow on the evening of

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September 21st with a 10 gram sample of

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seized HEU which you requested for

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nuclear forensics analysis holy crap now

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I need you to digest just for a second I

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need you to sit back and contemplate

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what I just read to you it's one of the

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most holy crap things I can do right

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well you thought so let me continue

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first what is H II you

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10 grams of it seized and why is it so

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important that Muller is going to take

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this seized 80 you to Moscow where he

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has to meet with their security services

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right and get a flight clearance for

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something that needs to have clearance

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if they want to make sure that the

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flights not going to get interrupted

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what is HEU well here you go 80 you my

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friends is highly enriched uranium it is

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the fissile uranium in a nuclear weapon

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primary that's what it is that's right

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the critical component for a nuclear

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when was it seized

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it was C it was seized how do you see

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what is going on here

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when was it sees death from whom from

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whom do you sees highly enriched uranium

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I need you to really really think about

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what I am saying here and why is it

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being taken back to Moscow was it stolen

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was it was it stolen in Moscow or Russia

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maybe was it made in Russia maybe was it

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bought it was seized

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you know also was about was it some kind

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of drug deal of nuclear material

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entities right seized drugs seized

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highly enriched uranium wait a minute

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here

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has this ever happened in history has

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there been a deal that has gone down

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with weapons-grade uranium that was

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somehow warded caught maybe a car was

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pulled over whatever and highly enriched

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uranium was seized it was in the hands

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of somebody that was out to build a new

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clue wait a minute here that's a movie

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now back to the cable

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tripping right now are you tripping okay

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listen to this the cable says background

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over two years ago Russia requested a

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10-gram sample of a highly enriched

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uranium that was seized in early 2006 in

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the seized ATU oh-oh-oh-oh it also

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points out here during it was seized

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during a nuclear smuggling sting

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operation involving one Russian national

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and several Georgian accomplices the

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seized highly enriched uranium was

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transferred to US custody strained and

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is being held at a secured Department of

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Defense facility in response to the

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Russian request the Georgian government

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authorized the United States to share a

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sample of the material with the Russians

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for forensic analysis director Mueller

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previously planned to deliver the sample

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in April but due to a scheduling

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conflict of trip was cancelled embassy

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Moscow liqu got informed the FSB prior

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to Mueller's intended April delivery and

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received confirmation that the FSB would

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take custody of the sample after the

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directors plane landed it's a movie man

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pascale also informed Raza Tom of the

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planned transfer and that the United

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States placed a high priority on

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completing this transfer once that Allah

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got the the told FSB counterparts that

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April trip had been cancelled ambassador

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a barrel informed Igor never of you know

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never huh who said that he understood

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but with disappointed that trip was

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postponed the September twenty first

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visit provides again an opportunity to

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deliver the requested ten gram sample

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from the seized HEU in order to obtain

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cooperation from the geo are on this

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nuclear smuggling case and to eventually

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establish a more productive mechanism of

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us Russian cooperation on nuclear

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paragraph number three while there was a

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reasonable exchange of information with

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the Russian security services at the

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time of the 2006 seizure we have poor

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cooperation investigating the diversion

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of ATU which the United States believes

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was stolen from a Russian facility

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Russia did not respond to papers that

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then acting United States rude purr

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provided Deputy Foreign Minister yl both

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in December 2008 reiterating that the

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USG position that United States

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government that Russia would pick up

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this sample in the United States further

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when asked for an update on their

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response to our proposal he told us in

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early 2009 in Washington that there was

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an interagency dispute over who would

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come and pick up the material number

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four given Russia's reluctance to act so

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far

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FBI Mueller's delivery of the sample

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will underscore to Russia our commitment

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to follow through on this case while

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some details related to the sharing of

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information on smuggling networks may be

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too sensitive to discuss delivery of a

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sample could enable us to discuss

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whether Russian authorities investigated

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the diversion and prosecuted anyone

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moreover we hope it will spark

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discussions on mechanisms to exchange

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information and material on future

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incidents of this nature particularly in

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the light of the commitments made in the

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July summit United States Russia joint

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statement a nuclear cooperation and this

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is regarding a strengthening of our

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cooperation to stop acts of nuclear

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terrorism posed should note that the

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Department of Energy and the NSA's April

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2009 determination authorizing

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distribution of the sample to the

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Russian Federation only for attribution

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attribution of the sample and support of

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criminal investigation and is applicable

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to the proposed 21st September delivery

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of the sample to Russia now on April

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16th the FSB verbally confirmed that we

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will have no problem with the Russian

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industry of aviation concerning

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Mueller's flight although we probably

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won't see paperwork until shortly before

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the trip the FBI is requiring that

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authority as opposed to an intelligence

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service or technical Authority picked up

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the sample a representative from the

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responsible Russian law enforcement

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authority who will accept custody of the

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sample must be identified and verified

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ahead of time that individual will be

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required to have signatory authority to

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accept the sample appropriate

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arrangements need to be made to ensure

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the transfer of the material is

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conducted at the airport plane side upon

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arrival of the directors aircraft post

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should also remind the Geor that this is

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the material about which the Geor gave

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the US government non-proliferation

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assurances in 2008 in a diplomatic note

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from February 2008 as before we require

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confirmation that a representative from

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a responsible Russian law enforcement

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authority will be available to accept

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custody of the sample and have signatory

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authority to accept the sample we

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require that the transfer of this

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material be conducted at the airport on

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unbelievable how crazy is this this is

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the gnarliest movie ever but it's true

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now clearly sting operation okay all

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right that's scary enough the fact that

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it actually went down and that material

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was stolen from a Russian facility

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highly enriched uranium and somebody was

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there to buy it somebody stole it

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somebody was there to buy it and then it

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was seized were we there to buy it were

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we posing as the agents did we break

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into the facility and steal it and turn

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around and try to sell it to

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criminals either-or that's what happened

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in this sting operation I don't know

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which version is true but nonetheless

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the material was stolen and this is the

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only stolen highly enriched uranium that

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we know about how many times does this

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happen how many times how many times

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have we stopped somebody from getting

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this does somebody have something now

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think about that it's the craziest

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WikiLeaks ever I don't care after

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reading this I don't care about Snowden

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I don't Chelsea Manning released from

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prison today wearing black converse

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Chuck Taylors right you saw the feet

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right I don't care about that

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this is insane and it's also fade to

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black

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I'm your host Jimmy Church I'll be right

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back with a very special guest to kick

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off this show so and I'm gonna try to

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pull this one off

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it's going to be interesting you'll see

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you'll see just relax relax everybody

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because when we come back you know what

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I might as well just tell you now we're

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going to do a simulcast with Clyde Lewis

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he's live right now with Ground Zero

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we're live right now with fade to black

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now we got to connect it off and get

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live on both shows at the same time

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we'll pull it off sit tight I'll be

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[Music]

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all right welcome back

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fade to black I'm your host Tim Eaters

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follow me on twitter @ JT radio it's a

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very special Wednesday night broadcast

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tonight of a fader night so we're going

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to open up the phone lines a little bit

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man I just announced right before the

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break that we are going to join Clyde

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Lewis he's going to join us we're going

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to do a little simulcast we've done this

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a few times over the years so right now

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Ground Zero is live we are live and we

601
00:32:12,020 --> 00:32:08,700
need to coordinate things and somehow

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wind up together and I think as our

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music dies down and we come out of this

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break Clyde is should be in about 15

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00:32:25,220 --> 00:32:22,290
seconds coming out of his break and then

606
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I will choke each other at the hip let's

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see we're flight Israel see see he's

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still in commercial break so I'll bring

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that down just a little bit and we'll

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let that sit there and it's five seconds

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so there we go any any second now Clyde

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Willa and his station break and then

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join us Clyde will be at contact in the

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desert we're going to talk about that in

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just a minute I do want to remind

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everybody the schedule of events is a

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it's going to be it's going to be

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back-to-back at contact in the desert so

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I do remember that Friday night we're

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going to broadcast live from the Lotus

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room which is behind the sanctuary our

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booth the fade to black booth will be in

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front of the sanctuary front and center

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at the corner of where we were last year

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but actually facing the main walkway

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there okay so that's that that'll be

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Friday night seven o'clock at the Lotus

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Room Saturday I've got a few things that

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I'll be doing throughout the day we'll

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announce that and then Saturday night at

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7:00 p.m. we will be doing our panel at

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the amphitheater and that's the

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forbidden archeology panel Sunday night

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were

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Oh Oh also Saturday night there's two

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events that are going on after our panel

637
00:33:51,370 --> 00:33:49,370
ends at 9 o'clock I want to remind

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everybody of one there's going to be a

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00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:53,809
huge thing going on at the amphitheater

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immediately following the panel and I

641
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will be joining briefly on stage of

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Victoria she starts the presentation

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there what it is I'm not allowed to

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speak about but it is going to be

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extraordinary so there's that and then

646
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Melinda Leslie's doing her night vision

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down the hill where we were last year on

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Saturday night so we will head out and

649
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go join Melinda Leslie Saturday night

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for the night vision and then a Sunday

651
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night we will up focus on the line quite

652
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Clyde

653
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yes Jimmy Church how you doing buddy I

654
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just I just have to say this collect

655
00:34:44,139 --> 00:34:38,389
Clyde my man my man won no we all owe

656
00:34:46,750 --> 00:34:44,149
each other man how low can we go so I

657
00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:46,760
have your father okay yeah it's up Clyde

658
00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:48,800
welcome to the show and you can just say

659
00:34:52,810 --> 00:34:50,480
Jimmy welcome and then we'll get those

660
00:34:54,820 --> 00:34:52,820
out of the way let's do this welcome to

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ground zero you're on ground zero would

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be and and we're my Clyde welcome to

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fade to black

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another simulcast you know what's fun

665
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:03,530
for this effort our audiences Clyde is

666
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this is probably the third time that we

667
00:35:11,770 --> 00:35:08,089
have done this in three years very very

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00:35:14,530 --> 00:35:11,780
cool and it is also very rare in

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broadcast that the audience really gets

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to see a couple of hosts that are on the

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air at the same time that our friends

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and we actually enjoy each other you

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00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:25,609
know this is not a fictitious thing and

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no I mean there are a lot of people

675
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there are a lot of people in the biz

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00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:32,060
that yeah when we're off we're all buds

677
00:35:35,859 --> 00:35:34,250
and we talk about strategies and

678
00:35:37,540 --> 00:35:35,869
sometimes want to talk about that we

679
00:35:40,270 --> 00:35:37,550
just talk about you know you know really

680
00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:40,280
weird things and and I've known you for

681
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:43,250
a while and as a matter of fact you know

682
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:44,330
I was impressed with a lot of your

683
00:35:47,470 --> 00:35:45,650
research I had to give you a call

684
00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:47,480
because I thought you know if the

685
00:35:51,250 --> 00:35:49,280
research is done by this guy I got to

686
00:35:52,540 --> 00:35:51,260
have him on and I'm not gonna and I

687
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:52,550
wanted him to get some credit for this

688
00:35:58,319 --> 00:35:55,450
research and it was that Malibu

689
00:36:01,020 --> 00:35:58,329
UFO base the underwater UFO base at

690
00:36:03,299 --> 00:36:01,030
Point Dume right and that was that was

691
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:03,309
amazing show we did together simulcast

692
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:06,130
that we did and now and so many years

693
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:08,290
ago now you know where did they you know

694
00:36:15,870 --> 00:36:12,490
it's crazy how the time flies by Clyde

695
00:36:18,809 --> 00:36:15,880
and this this thing that we we do

696
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:18,819
together which is collect knowledge and

697
00:36:24,180 --> 00:36:21,010
and hang out with our audience every

698
00:36:27,870 --> 00:36:24,190
single night yes this community of ours

699
00:36:29,309 --> 00:36:27,880
Clyde is growing isn't it it is today

700
00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:29,319
and I think what's really awesome about

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00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:32,200
what you do and what I do is that we are

702
00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:34,930
we are stirring up a new guard we're

703
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:37,510
stirring up a new group of people we

704
00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:39,130
have a there's already built-in audience

705
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:40,960
we know but there are a lot of people

706
00:36:45,780 --> 00:36:43,839
still that have no idea what we're

707
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:45,790
talking about and want to have an idea

708
00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:47,290
of what we're talking about and why we

709
00:36:52,290 --> 00:36:49,260
talk about what we talk about and how

710
00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:52,300
strange the world is in reality and

711
00:36:59,280 --> 00:36:55,140
anything from pair of politics to

712
00:37:01,170 --> 00:36:59,290
paranormal to some of the more stranger

713
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:01,180
things that happen on a day to day basis

714
00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:04,000
you know and and speaking about that

715
00:37:08,819 --> 00:37:07,119
with contact in the desert last year you

716
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:08,829
were there for the first time it was I

717
00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:09,970
think the third or fourth year of

718
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:13,359
contact and what an extraordinary event

719
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:14,710
our booths

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00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:17,530
oddly enough everybody we're facing each

721
00:37:22,890 --> 00:37:19,930
other last year so quiet I got to stare

722
00:37:25,950 --> 00:37:22,900
at each other for a couple of longingly

723
00:37:27,809 --> 00:37:25,960
yes longingly we created some nice

724
00:37:30,510 --> 00:37:27,819
t-shirts though that's what we did yes

725
00:37:32,970 --> 00:37:30,520
we did we traded t-shirts and then hung

726
00:37:34,980 --> 00:37:32,980
out with Giorgio tsoukalos and all kinds

727
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:34,990
of other crazy stuff that we did and I

728
00:37:40,170 --> 00:37:37,210
did your show it was it was amazing to

729
00:37:42,059 --> 00:37:40,180
be on your show to be on you know

730
00:37:43,380 --> 00:37:42,069
talking with you and and several other

731
00:37:46,589 --> 00:37:43,390
distinguished guests we had a great

732
00:37:48,329 --> 00:37:46,599
panel together and this year's is going

733
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:48,339
to be even better when we go to contact

734
00:37:53,210 --> 00:37:50,290
I'm going I'll be in there I'll be

735
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:53,220
tomorrow arriving there in the afternoon

736
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:56,650
so I'll be in the vicinity there and

737
00:38:00,240 --> 00:37:57,970
then of course we have a whole bunch of

738
00:38:02,579 --> 00:38:00,250
stuff that's going on Friday Saturday

739
00:38:05,069 --> 00:38:02,589
and Sunday with panels and speaking

740
00:38:07,170 --> 00:38:05,079
engagements this year I just wanted to

741
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:07,180
let you know Jimmy we're going to do the

742
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:08,370
black cube

743
00:38:13,390 --> 00:38:11,760
on the plane and we're getting out there

744
00:38:15,740 --> 00:38:13,400
so it's going to be a dimensional

745
00:38:20,570 --> 00:38:15,750
conversation you guys are going to be

746
00:38:21,650 --> 00:38:20,580
summoning with the cube oh yeah man live

747
00:38:24,350 --> 00:38:21,660
okay

748
00:38:26,750 --> 00:38:24,360
all right all right yep all right you

749
00:38:28,130 --> 00:38:26,760
know earlier Clyde you're asking me you

750
00:38:31,610 --> 00:38:28,140
said you know let's do dinner tomorrow

751
00:38:33,350 --> 00:38:31,620
night yes every year so I'm going to

752
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:33,360
extend the invitation to you now live on

753
00:38:38,990 --> 00:38:36,480
the radio so you and Roger and Ron can't

754
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:39,000
get out of this which is tomorrow night

755
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:42,240
at the Joshua tree saloon we get

756
00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:43,890
together with the fate or not and we

757
00:38:50,180 --> 00:38:47,160
take the place over Emma and it's right

758
00:38:52,220 --> 00:38:50,190
across the street from the facilities

759
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:52,230
there it's right there and the great

760
00:38:56,090 --> 00:38:54,480
thing about it is tomorrow we have to do

761
00:39:00,350 --> 00:38:56,100
you and I we have to go do the speakers

762
00:39:03,020 --> 00:39:00,360
you know get together that they do every

763
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:03,030
year but then right after that we head

764
00:39:06,380 --> 00:39:04,800
across the street to the Joshua Tree

765
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:06,390
saloon so then you need to come out and

766
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:08,880
what's really cool the fate or not are

767
00:39:14,450 --> 00:39:12,480
Clyde Lewis fans right it I know and B

768
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:14,460
they're interchangeable they and I also

769
00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:16,650
I worn my fade to black shirt on many

770
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:19,710
occasions when I do my I do my live face

771
00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:22,410
face book live I wear the shirt proudly

772
00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:24,510
well everybody thinks it's you on the

773
00:39:31,010 --> 00:39:26,310
shirt but that's okay

774
00:39:32,930 --> 00:39:31,020
Clyde so what really okay so what you're

775
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:32,940
going to be hosting a couple of panels I

776
00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:34,650
know you're going to do the black cube

777
00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:37,730
and what yes and then I think Saturday

778
00:39:45,410 --> 00:39:41,940
morning I did I see it right yeah Jack

779
00:39:47,410 --> 00:39:45,420
valet on your panel yeah I am nervous I

780
00:39:49,550 --> 00:39:47,420
am nervous tell I mean I I have

781
00:39:51,740 --> 00:39:49,560
interviewed the Great's Whitley Strieber

782
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:51,750
Linda Moulton Howe I've done all of the

783
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:55,440
Great's but this guy is probably yeah

784
00:40:00,340 --> 00:39:58,170
yeah yeah yeah he is he is the man he's

785
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:00,350
the Neil deGrasse Tyson of UFOs he is uh

786
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:03,330
he is most definitely he's been around a

787
00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:06,290
long time and I have said before that

788
00:40:11,870 --> 00:40:09,750
Francois Truffaut the man who was being

789
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:11,880
able to name the actor who played or

790
00:40:16,850 --> 00:40:14,730
actually he played the French scientist

791
00:40:17,930 --> 00:40:16,860
in Close Encounters right and it's based

792
00:40:21,830 --> 00:40:17,940
on Jacques Vallee

793
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:21,840
so yeah so I'm interviewing this is this

794
00:40:24,050 --> 00:40:22,050
is

795
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:24,060
one of the the big dogs in the UFO

796
00:40:27,830 --> 00:40:26,130
community yes I'm very nervous about it

797
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:27,840
yeah there you go that's a bucket list

798
00:40:31,730 --> 00:40:29,730
right there and this is the thing yes

799
00:40:34,730 --> 00:40:31,740
and this is the thing Clyde I've said

800
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:34,740
this about Jacque many times look into

801
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:36,810
his eyes look when you're there just

802
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:38,130
look into his eyes

803
00:40:42,260 --> 00:40:39,810
think about what I'm about to say to you

804
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:42,270
he's an alien he's an alien

805
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:44,850
he's an alien you think Israel is yeah

806
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:47,250
man yeah I think Jack I think Jack's got

807
00:40:53,930 --> 00:40:49,890
some altered DNA you know so well if

808
00:40:56,210 --> 00:40:53,940
it's just triple he's so uh is so alive

809
00:40:59,150 --> 00:40:56,220
you know and you just just look at his

810
00:41:01,280 --> 00:40:59,160
eyes it's crazy the intelligence that is

811
00:41:04,130 --> 00:41:01,290
there so you're going to do that panel

812
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:04,140
and what's that panel about I don't know

813
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:05,970
I mean whatever he decides is having

814
00:41:09,140 --> 00:41:07,920
look you're sitting it's like you know

815
00:41:11,390 --> 00:41:09,150
it's like doing an interview with John

816
00:41:12,410 --> 00:41:11,400
Lennon I mean what would you say hi John

817
00:41:14,380 --> 00:41:12,420
what are you talk about

818
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:14,390
hi Jacques we're going to talk about oh

819
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:18,090
man yeah yeah yeah that's that's a

820
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:20,370
really really big get good for you on

821
00:41:24,620 --> 00:41:20,910
that one

822
00:41:27,050 --> 00:41:24,630
well we we're going to broadcast Friday

823
00:41:29,210 --> 00:41:27,060
night and I'm sure you'll if you're not

824
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:29,220
broadcasting you can stop by you know of

825
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:31,200
course and and hang out this year

826
00:41:34,460 --> 00:41:32,880
actually this year I'm not broadcasting

827
00:41:36,050 --> 00:41:34,470
I'm not doing the broadcast so I'm going

828
00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:36,060
to be free to just basically bounce

829
00:41:41,210 --> 00:41:38,400
around and and just basically invade

830
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:41,220
your show Randa and then be cool I'd

831
00:41:44,020 --> 00:41:42,690
love to be on your show yeah so but

832
00:41:46,940 --> 00:41:44,030
that's Friday night we're broadcasting

833
00:41:49,460 --> 00:41:46,950
Saturday night we're doing a panel I'm

834
00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:49,470
announcing this to your audience that is

835
00:41:53,390 --> 00:41:51,510
going to be there Saturday night I'm

836
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:53,400
doing the forbidden archeology panel

837
00:41:59,780 --> 00:41:56,490
with a Hancock and Bauval and you know

838
00:42:02,330 --> 00:41:59,790
the the correct crowd Andrew Collins and

839
00:42:04,010 --> 00:42:02,340
that's good about Challenger is he going

840
00:42:06,830 --> 00:42:04,020
to be put in there for that Michael's

841
00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:06,840
off oh yeah he is and and he's going to

842
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:08,640
be there contact this here I don't think

843
00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:10,170
he's going to do this panel but he will

844
00:42:15,050 --> 00:42:12,720
be on the show with this on Friday night

845
00:42:18,140 --> 00:42:15,060
he does that every year with us he's an

846
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:18,150
amazing amazing guy I went to one is I

847
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:20,970
just went to one of his get-togethers he

848
00:42:25,550 --> 00:42:23,370
came through Portland and the guy was so

849
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:25,560
amazing that I had to just talk to him

850
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:27,450
afterwards and he gave me his home phone

851
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:29,760
number it became good friends but he's a

852
00:42:33,170 --> 00:42:31,680
good guy I love Michael enough and he's

853
00:42:34,309 --> 00:42:33,180
always wearing that fade to black shirt

854
00:42:36,979 --> 00:42:34,319
you know so it

855
00:42:38,209 --> 00:42:36,989
it flips me out when I see that you know

856
00:42:40,189 --> 00:42:38,219
what really freaked him out tell him

857
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:40,199
that you knew that he was a he was a pop

858
00:42:44,660 --> 00:42:43,529
icon in Africa when he lived in Africa

859
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:44,670
all right still lives in Africa but

860
00:42:49,579 --> 00:42:46,410
understand he was a he was a pop rock

861
00:42:52,789 --> 00:42:49,589
star kind of like Johnny pal I bowed let

862
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:52,799
ya David Bowie maybe or like maybe at a

863
00:42:56,569 --> 00:42:54,569
man who's kind of like that back then I

864
00:42:58,039 --> 00:42:56,579
could see it I could see a client I

865
00:43:00,499 --> 00:42:58,049
really could

866
00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:00,509
and the other thing is not only

867
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:03,150
contacting the desert but last year's

868
00:43:07,699 --> 00:43:05,249
you recall that all those crazy

869
00:43:11,930 --> 00:43:07,709
sightings were out there last year yes

870
00:43:13,789 --> 00:43:11,940
so that'll be going on each night with

871
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:13,799
Melinda Leslie and her night vision

872
00:43:17,959 --> 00:43:16,079
thing so you need to come over and hang

873
00:43:20,569 --> 00:43:17,969
out with this and and peer to the

874
00:43:22,939 --> 00:43:20,579
heavens man because it's a guaranteed a

875
00:43:24,769 --> 00:43:22,949
guaranteed sighting like you know like

876
00:43:26,269 --> 00:43:24,779
like you're up at East Eddie at chains

877
00:43:27,189 --> 00:43:26,279
Gilliland's but it's right there in

878
00:43:29,539 --> 00:43:27,199
Joshua Tree

879
00:43:32,479 --> 00:43:29,549
yeah he's even going to be there James

880
00:43:34,249 --> 00:43:32,489
Gillan oh you there yeah I remember

881
00:43:35,959 --> 00:43:34,259
running to Nick Redfern at the airport

882
00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:35,969
so I mean there's so many people that

883
00:43:39,769 --> 00:43:38,400
you know that I've interviewed or I've

884
00:43:41,630 --> 00:43:39,779
talked with her I've seen in books that

885
00:43:42,739 --> 00:43:41,640
you know you go to the airport and there

886
00:43:44,209 --> 00:43:42,749
they are they're all getting their

887
00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:44,219
baggage and you just don't want to say

888
00:43:49,130 --> 00:43:46,910
hey are you you are aren't you you know

889
00:43:52,309 --> 00:43:49,140
it's hard and I don't want to do this

890
00:43:54,529 --> 00:43:52,319
right it's hard not to be a fanboy it I

891
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:54,539
know is it really is because I respect

892
00:44:00,199 --> 00:43:57,599
and so do you and all of them and you

893
00:44:01,370 --> 00:44:00,209
interview and you do this but it's a

894
00:44:03,949 --> 00:44:01,380
whole nother thing when you can just

895
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:03,959
hang out and talk about the weather and

896
00:44:09,019 --> 00:44:06,690
family and and just do your thing and

897
00:44:12,170 --> 00:44:09,029
not do the interview it's one of the

898
00:44:15,259 --> 00:44:12,180
coolest things about it that that one

899
00:44:16,699 --> 00:44:15,269
desert stink and unshaven and and that

900
00:44:20,959 --> 00:44:16,709
you know you really get to know a person

901
00:44:23,630 --> 00:44:20,969
you know and I'm sorry the way I brought

902
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:23,640
that up but I did everybody on Campton

903
00:44:28,699 --> 00:44:25,650
you're at it's like the Burning Man for

904
00:44:31,579 --> 00:44:28,709
UFO people were like on Campton and the

905
00:44:32,689 --> 00:44:31,589
only person it was really that looked

906
00:44:35,509 --> 00:44:32,699
really good with Stanton Friedman

907
00:44:37,969 --> 00:44:35,519
remember yeah sure yeah human his suit

908
00:44:39,319 --> 00:44:37,979
and his tie and it was 127 degrees the

909
00:44:41,959 --> 00:44:39,329
guy didn't even break a sweat

910
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:41,969
talk about your aliens Stan Freeman

911
00:44:45,229 --> 00:44:43,440
didn't even break a sweat he still looks

912
00:44:45,529 --> 00:44:45,239
good he's in his 80s he just had a heart

913
00:44:46,250 --> 00:44:45,539
attack

914
00:44:48,260 --> 00:44:46,260
you believe that

915
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:48,270
yeah and the other guy if you remember

916
00:44:52,070 --> 00:44:50,250
sitting off to your left statin was next

917
00:44:54,620 --> 00:44:52,080
to me across from Clyde everybody

918
00:44:56,450 --> 00:44:54,630
sitting there in the Sun eventually we

919
00:44:59,540 --> 00:44:56,460
had a tent you remember we had the thing

920
00:45:02,690 --> 00:44:59,550
and so Stanton just inched his way down

921
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:02,700
all 19 loudly until he was in the shade

922
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:04,890
it was pretty funny if I step right

923
00:45:08,450 --> 00:45:05,910
anyway right

924
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:08,460
Don Schmidt last year the perfect hair

925
00:45:14,540 --> 00:45:11,370
is a suit and tie everybody's running

926
00:45:16,430 --> 00:45:14,550
around in sandals but Don will not he

927
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:16,440
has to be in public in a suit and tie

928
00:45:20,930 --> 00:45:19,200
and and his hair perfect I thought Don

929
00:45:22,610 --> 00:45:20,940
Schmidt is the most attractive banded

930
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:22,620
UFO dome others say that right now yeah

931
00:45:27,170 --> 00:45:23,970
yeah and I feel him all the time I say

932
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:27,180
you are the most attractive man and and

933
00:45:30,860 --> 00:45:29,010
he always laughs it went you know they

934
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:30,870
even like me when I saw that Roswell I

935
00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:32,730
just got off a plane and I was all

936
00:45:36,260 --> 00:45:34,710
disheveled they were shoving a green

937
00:45:37,460 --> 00:45:36,270
chile cheeseburgers in my face at

938
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:37,470
McDonald's he's just sitting there all

939
00:45:41,210 --> 00:45:40,050
smiling with nice hair and a tie I'm

940
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:41,220
thinking oh this guy's got to run for

941
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:42,690
president this vote for him because you

942
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:44,490
know he looks like Sylvester Stallone

943
00:45:48,020 --> 00:45:46,050
you know I'm saying well he sells a lot

944
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:48,030
of books but he makes most of his money

945
00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:56,390
Clyde I Love You Man I love you we'll

946
00:46:01,520 --> 00:45:58,890
see we'll see you tomorrow night and

947
00:46:03,140 --> 00:46:01,530
everybody at Ground Zero

948
00:46:04,910 --> 00:46:03,150
Don's gonna love it when we tell about

949
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:04,920
his hair product but we just told him he

950
00:46:09,230 --> 00:46:07,110
does gonna love it I want to think of it

951
00:46:11,210 --> 00:46:09,240
I want a piece of it I did do I've been

952
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:11,220
asking for his hair Willie we got to

953
00:46:14,930 --> 00:46:13,200
just go up this is mr. Schmidt mr.

954
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:14,940
Schmidt we have your hair please we want

955
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:18,000
your hair it strained Clyde it's trained

956
00:46:22,340 --> 00:46:20,010
I don't even think he has to call it he

957
00:46:24,110 --> 00:46:22,350
just tells it what to do yeah yeah I

958
00:46:27,110 --> 00:46:24,120
just go and light it it does he's like

959
00:46:28,970 --> 00:46:27,120
Fonzie anyway safe travels safe travels

960
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,980
my friend we'll see ya you know Jimmy

961
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:30,720
we'll see I had contacted the desert

962
00:46:32,330 --> 00:46:31,920
thank you for calling in to be a part of

963
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:32,340
the show today

964
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:35,760
you got a Clyde be safe Clyde internal

965
00:46:38,810 --> 00:46:36,720
tuckies to take care

966
00:46:42,290 --> 00:46:38,820
you got a Clyde Clyde Lewis everybody

967
00:46:43,610 --> 00:46:42,300
ground zero and so there you go

968
00:46:47,570 --> 00:46:43,620
I'll open up the phone lines really

969
00:46:54,740 --> 00:46:47,580
quick three-two-three 8 to 5 5 0 for 5

970
00:46:59,269 --> 00:46:54,750
or 3 2 3 2 7 5 9 6 9 5 3 2 3 8 to 5 5 0

971
00:47:01,729 --> 00:46:59,279
for 5 3 2 3 2 7 5 9 6 9 5 one of the

972
00:47:03,859 --> 00:47:01,739
things about quite cool dude you know

973
00:47:06,380 --> 00:47:03,869
cool do but one of the great things

974
00:47:10,459 --> 00:47:06,390
about him is you just sit down and start

975
00:47:14,559 --> 00:47:10,469
talking he lives and breathes the

976
00:47:18,409 --> 00:47:14,569
paranormal I mean it is in his blood

977
00:47:19,939 --> 00:47:18,419
that that is he is not artificial and I

978
00:47:22,099 --> 00:47:19,949
will always say that about Clyde Lewis

979
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:22,109
very very cool very intelligent guy but

980
00:47:26,449 --> 00:47:24,689
man when it comes to ufology in the

981
00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:26,459
paranormal that's it

982
00:47:31,399 --> 00:47:28,529
and that's it and he's going to be doing

983
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:31,409
the cube I can't believe it so I think

984
00:47:39,380 --> 00:47:34,650
what they're going to do is they are

985
00:47:42,319 --> 00:47:39,390
going to summon live on stage so there

986
00:47:44,059 --> 00:47:42,329
you go I might have to show up for that

987
00:47:46,669 --> 00:47:44,069
one that's going to be really cool okay

988
00:47:48,799 --> 00:47:46,679
all right fate or not three two three

989
00:47:55,089 --> 00:47:48,809
eight two five five zero four five three

990
00:47:58,819 --> 00:47:55,099
two three two seventy-five 96 95 and I

991
00:48:02,809 --> 00:47:58,829
wanted to mention a couple of things

992
00:48:06,499 --> 00:48:02,819
that are pretty trippy number one this

993
00:48:08,899 --> 00:48:06,509
is some breaking news that was released

994
00:48:10,699 --> 00:48:08,909
today and I've got to get this out there

995
00:48:16,179 --> 00:48:10,709
to you because it's it's absolutely

996
00:48:19,339 --> 00:48:16,189
extraordinary blackened and irregular

997
00:48:22,749 --> 00:48:19,349
that's right the prehistoric beads found

998
00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:22,759
in a centuries-old Illinois's grave

999
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:25,380
don't look like anything special you

1000
00:48:32,769 --> 00:48:28,650
have to see them but the latest analysis

1001
00:48:36,819 --> 00:48:32,779
shows that they were fashioned from

1002
00:48:41,209 --> 00:48:36,829
shards of a meteorite that fell to earth

1003
00:48:44,289 --> 00:48:41,219
about 700 350 miles 700 kilometres 350

1004
00:48:48,829 --> 00:48:44,299
miles from where the beads were found

1005
00:48:51,019 --> 00:48:48,839
now the link between the annika

1006
00:48:56,109 --> 00:48:51,029
meteorite which landed in central

1007
00:48:58,539 --> 00:48:56,119
Minnesota and the beads confirms that

1008
00:49:01,729 --> 00:48:58,549
2,000 years ago

1009
00:49:05,779 --> 00:49:01,739
goods and ideas were moving hundreds of

1010
00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:05,789
miles across eastern North America the

1011
00:49:09,469 --> 00:49:07,529
beads were made by people from the

1012
00:49:12,270 --> 00:49:09,479
Hopewell culture which flourished from

1013
00:49:19,380 --> 00:49:12,280
the United States Midwest between

1014
00:49:23,130 --> 00:49:19,390
100 BC to 480 now the epicenter of the

1015
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:23,140
hope wells was Ohio but obviously spread

1016
00:49:31,370 --> 00:49:27,520
to Minnesota the Mississippi right think

1017
00:49:34,890 --> 00:49:31,380
about that for a second a meteorite

1018
00:49:37,410 --> 00:49:34,900
2,000 years ago it's an absolutely

1019
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:37,420
amazing discovery the grave itself was

1020
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:39,250
discovered 200 years ago but they never

1021
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:41,530
went back and studied now they have or

1022
00:49:47,010 --> 00:49:45,610
broke it down the Indians you know i the

1023
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:47,020
the meteorites when you look at the

1024
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:49,810
beads I can tell I know what a meteorite

1025
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:52,090
looks like and it's always spectacular

1026
00:49:57,780 --> 00:49:54,610
they didn't know they just knew it

1027
00:50:03,510 --> 00:49:57,790
looked cool right and they made these

1028
00:50:05,490 --> 00:50:03,520
beads 2,000 years ago if it blows my

1029
00:50:09,830 --> 00:50:05,500
mind absolutely blows my mind we'll get

1030
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:09,840
the images up here in a second now also

1031
00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:12,010
one of the things that we talk about a

1032
00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:15,730
lot on this show is Malmstrom Air Force

1033
00:50:22,980 --> 00:50:20,950
Base and my mounts from thank you thank

1034
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:22,990
you Mark for posting that look at these

1035
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:25,090
beads everybody just go to Jimmy Church

1036
00:50:31,020 --> 00:50:27,970
radio.com I'm sorry good to go to our

1037
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:31,030
Twitter feed at J Church radio and then

1038
00:50:35,010 --> 00:50:33,250
do a hashtag f2b it'll pop up right

1039
00:50:38,730 --> 00:50:35,020
there and you can see it look at these

1040
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:38,740
are those absolutely incredible look at

1041
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:43,690
that meteorite beads 2,000 years old in

1042
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:47,170
a grave yeah pretty incredible pretty

1043
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:48,400
incredible

1044
00:51:01,250 --> 00:50:53,370
back to Malmstrom Air Force Base okay

1045
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:01,260
famous for the ICBM Minuteman shut down

1046
00:51:08,130 --> 00:51:04,570
in the missile silos now Malmstrom Air

1047
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:08,140
Force Base is part of our missile shield

1048
00:51:14,010 --> 00:51:11,440
our missile defense system nuclear

1049
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:14,020
weapons in North America that would

1050
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:17,680
shoot over the North Pole and into

1051
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:20,170
whatever wherever we needed them to go

1052
00:51:27,150 --> 00:51:25,570
to and hundreds of silos hundreds of

1053
00:51:30,810 --> 00:51:27,160
titles across that part of the country

1054
00:51:34,860 --> 00:51:30,820
and Malmstrom Air Force Base has a big

1055
00:51:39,780 --> 00:51:34,870
chunk of those missile silos underground

1056
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:39,790
setups why anyway back in 1967 happened

1057
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:44,110
a couple of times but 67 68 when Robert

1058
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:46,210
Salazar was there and he's been on this

1059
00:51:52,310 --> 00:51:47,010
show before

1060
00:51:57,690 --> 00:51:52,320
a UFO was sighted over the base

1061
00:51:59,850 --> 00:51:57,700
described well as a as an orange disc

1062
00:52:02,330 --> 00:51:59,860
and craft and some described it as a

1063
00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:02,340
ball and it was seen over a few of the

1064
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:05,710
missile silos there anyway over the main

1065
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:08,170
entrance of Malmstrom not the main

1066
00:52:12,740 --> 00:52:09,970
entrance amount from the main entrance

1067
00:52:16,140 --> 00:52:12,750
of one of these missile silo complexes

1068
00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:16,150
was a UFO now it was cited by the

1069
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:19,110
security team who then turned around and

1070
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:22,930
called down into the silo and said we've

1071
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:25,330
got something out here over the main

1072
00:52:32,750 --> 00:52:28,930
gate and at that moment the system's

1073
00:52:36,210 --> 00:52:32,760
shut down one missile after another and

1074
00:52:38,340 --> 00:52:36,220
you have a long string of green lights

1075
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:38,350
which means the missiles are active

1076
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:41,530
right and good to go and each one of

1077
00:52:52,020 --> 00:52:47,770
these went from green to red click-click

1078
00:52:55,170 --> 00:52:52,030
and went offline the tricky part about

1079
00:52:56,670 --> 00:52:55,180
all of this is back then you have to

1080
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:56,680
remember the computer systems were

1081
00:53:00,990 --> 00:52:58,480
different obviously not as sophisticated

1082
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:01,000
but also different and a lot of what was

1083
00:53:06,930 --> 00:53:04,810
done back then was hardwired an analogue

1084
00:53:09,330 --> 00:53:06,940
type of electrical system you were

1085
00:53:12,270 --> 00:53:09,340
flipping switches you had direct lines

1086
00:53:15,330 --> 00:53:12,280
and wires that are connecting things so

1087
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:15,340
for a missile to go offline it wasn't

1088
00:53:19,890 --> 00:53:17,770
necessarily a central computer system or

1089
00:53:22,430 --> 00:53:19,900
an operating system that went down we're

1090
00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:22,440
talking about hardwired setups right

1091
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:26,710
failsafe setups hard-wired flip the

1092
00:53:33,450 --> 00:53:29,890
switch on and off keys on and off well

1093
00:53:36,740 --> 00:53:33,460
all of the missiles went offline to this

1094
00:53:39,180 --> 00:53:36,750
day we don't know exactly what went down

1095
00:53:41,780 --> 00:53:39,190
but nonetheless

1096
00:53:44,460 --> 00:53:41,790
that was at Malmstrom Air Force Base

1097
00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:44,470
today here in the United States we have

1098
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:50,230
a thing called fracking now our missile

1099
00:53:55,910 --> 00:53:53,050
defense system those ICBMs are part of

1100
00:53:59,100 --> 00:53:55,920
our tri nuclear triad nuclear defense

1101
00:54:02,520 --> 00:53:59,110
setup that we have that's one of them

1102
00:54:05,250 --> 00:54:02,530
and what's interesting here you know we

1103
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:05,260
have the Bombers right we have b-52s and

1104
00:54:10,980 --> 00:54:08,890
the B twos and the B ones that's one

1105
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:10,990
part one leg of the triad another leg of

1106
00:54:16,370 --> 00:54:13,330
the triad is the ICBMs and the third

1107
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:16,380
part of the triad are submarine-launched

1108
00:54:23,340 --> 00:54:19,690
right missiles so that's our nuclear

1109
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:23,350
triad the mound strim set up net and

1110
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:25,690
that part of the country's set up and

1111
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:27,520
that part of the triad is very very

1112
00:54:33,060 --> 00:54:30,810
important very important to keep on line

1113
00:54:37,410 --> 00:54:33,070
now why would I be talking about

1114
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:42,250
the fracking boom in those wide-open

1115
00:54:46,780 --> 00:54:44,510
spaces that I'm talking about where all

1116
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:46,790
of these missiles are these in this

1117
00:54:54,340 --> 00:54:49,760
remote part of the United States is now

1118
00:54:56,890 --> 00:54:54,350
causing a challenge for the crews that

1119
00:55:01,140 --> 00:54:56,900
man those intercontinental ballistic

1120
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:01,150
missile sites they have to be manned

1121
00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:04,610
think about what I'm saying here there

1122
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:08,480
is so much fracking now going on in the

1123
00:55:18,070 --> 00:55:13,520
United States that it is causing traffic

1124
00:55:20,350 --> 00:55:18,080
problems that's right we have hired so

1125
00:55:23,170 --> 00:55:20,360
many people up there the streets are

1126
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:23,180
jammed with equipment heavy equipment

1127
00:55:31,330 --> 00:55:27,530
trucks cars people that that the crews

1128
00:55:34,690 --> 00:55:31,340
that are Manning the missile sites can't

1129
00:55:36,220 --> 00:55:34,700
get to work over the past decade and

1130
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:36,230
this is according to the general in

1131
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:37,610
charge the Air Force Global Strike

1132
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:40,610
Command that's because over the past

1133
00:55:46,690 --> 00:55:44,090
decade natural gas extraction including

1134
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:46,700
its influx of drilling crews and truck

1135
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:50,000
traffic and heavy traffic has spread

1136
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:52,490
across those very same states where the

1137
00:55:58,090 --> 00:55:55,010
20th Air Force maintains its nuclear

1138
00:55:59,710 --> 00:55:58,100
missile sites Air Force missile

1139
00:56:01,690 --> 00:55:59,720
operators and maintained errs at those

1140
00:56:05,170 --> 00:56:01,700
facilities such as mountain stream Air

1141
00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:05,180
Force Base in Montana drive hours and

1142
00:56:10,780 --> 00:56:08,000
hours for shifts at these remote sites

1143
00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:10,790
and they have to do this eight to ten

1144
00:56:18,010 --> 00:56:15,670
times per month think about what you say

1145
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:18,020
you need to show up for a shift change

1146
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:20,720
and your hours late and things got to be

1147
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:24,410
on schedule this is a no joke situation

1148
00:56:28,510 --> 00:56:26,570
that I'm talking about and you're going

1149
00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:28,520
to show up four hours late and tell them

1150
00:56:35,290 --> 00:56:30,910
that you were stuck in traffic why

1151
00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:35,300
because of fracking and this is where I

1152
00:56:44,380 --> 00:56:40,910
trip think about this now good fracking

1153
00:56:46,900 --> 00:56:44,390
be derailed not because of earthquakes

1154
00:56:49,180 --> 00:56:46,910
not because of environmental issues not

1155
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:49,190
because it's polluting our water tables

1156
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:50,050
not in

1157
00:56:57,780 --> 00:56:53,530
that because our nuclear crews can't get

1158
00:56:59,550 --> 00:56:57,790
to work on time and he told us it's

1159
00:57:03,270 --> 00:56:59,560
damned if you do damned if you don't

1160
00:57:07,770 --> 00:57:03,280
isn't it right think about this for a

1161
00:57:09,390 --> 00:57:07,780
second so what do you want to have do

1162
00:57:12,990 --> 00:57:09,400
you want to have the missile silos

1163
00:57:16,860 --> 00:57:13,000
manned for Armageddon or do you want

1164
00:57:20,670 --> 00:57:16,870
fracking to continue it looks like we

1165
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:20,680
can't have both and with that this is

1166
00:57:25,860 --> 00:57:22,510
crazy to block that's why I love you

1167
00:57:28,770 --> 00:57:25,870
guys you actually think about this so is

1168
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:28,780
that a trip or what that is I never

1169
00:57:34,740 --> 00:57:31,570
would have thought that fracking met its

1170
00:57:37,350 --> 00:57:34,750
match and when it comes to Washington DC

1171
00:57:39,570 --> 00:57:37,360
in the military industrial complex does

1172
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:39,580
that Trump no pun intended is that is

1173
00:57:46,710 --> 00:57:44,410
that the trump card over oil money right

1174
00:57:48,210 --> 00:57:46,720
and we're watching both of them go

1175
00:57:50,250 --> 00:57:48,220
head-to-head right now this is fade to

1176
00:57:53,450 --> 00:57:50,260
black it's fainter night three to three

1177
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:53,460
eight two five five zero four five or

1178
00:58:03,770 --> 00:57:56,050
three two three two seven five nine six

1179
00:58:09,539 --> 00:58:06,510
this is day two black with Jimmy Church

1180
00:58:13,250 --> 00:58:09,549
on the game changer radio network at K

1181
00:58:16,529 --> 00:58:13,260
GRA the global radio alliance

1182
00:58:19,890 --> 00:58:16,539
this is KCRA digital broadcasting

1183
00:58:27,859 --> 00:58:19,900
station Salt Lake City Utah Van Buren

1184
00:58:32,370 --> 00:58:30,569
hi this is Ray sobs here repping the

1185
00:58:35,339 --> 00:58:32,380
planet and you're listening to my good

1186
00:58:37,890 --> 00:58:35,349
friend Jimmy Church fade to black

1187
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:37,900
on the game changer network and the kgr

1188
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:42,490
a digital broadcast station this is Toby

1189
00:58:47,970 --> 00:58:44,650
Kebbell you're listening to Jimmy Church

1190
00:58:50,819 --> 00:58:47,980
radio calm don't hurt me Jimmy I'm only

1191
00:58:53,130 --> 00:58:50,829
little am Adrian Grenier this is our

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Eagle where the honey brothers was in

1193
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immaculate house on honey rise hey I'm

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00:59:01,319 --> 00:58:58,869
Adrian Grenier and I'm Ari Gold

1195
00:59:07,289 --> 00:59:01,329
where the honey brothers and you listen

1196
00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:07,299
to Jimmy Church a revolution what's up

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fade or not studio dumb loves fade the

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1215
01:00:03,109 --> 00:59:59,500
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01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:03,119
banner gobekli tepe

1217
01:00:07,489 --> 01:00:05,609
I'm getting older and noticing that my

1218
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:07,499
body just doesn't work as well as it

1219
01:00:11,029 --> 01:00:09,210
used to so I like to keep fit as

1220
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:11,039
possible by hitting the gym a few times

1221
01:00:15,529 --> 01:00:13,170
a week recently I started having a

1222
01:00:17,269 --> 01:00:15,539
nagging bicep pain and it got so bad I

1223
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:17,279
couldn't even lift the weights when I

1224
01:00:21,410 --> 01:00:19,170
was complaining about it to a friend he

1225
01:00:23,479 --> 01:00:21,420
told me about angio prim he said

1226
01:00:25,789 --> 01:00:23,489
chelation helps remove toxins heavy

1227
01:00:27,829 --> 01:00:25,799
metals and cholesterol in veins and

1228
01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:27,839
arteries that may cause blockages you

1229
01:00:32,450 --> 01:00:29,849
know after just one week of taking angio

1230
01:00:34,459 --> 01:00:32,460
primm the pain was gone and now I'm back

1231
01:00:36,469 --> 01:00:34,469
in the gym full strength scientific

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01:00:38,959 --> 01:00:36,479
research proves the active ingredient in

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01:00:41,719 --> 01:00:38,969
angiogram has superior oral chelation

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action that helps promote cardiovascular

1235
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health so to learn more go to angio

1236
01:00:49,099 --> 01:00:45,029
brimmed calm

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01:00:51,410 --> 01:00:49,109
that's ang IO P R I am calm or talk to a

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trained consultant call angio primm toll

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1240
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1242
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eight to seventy two twenty one or go to

1243
01:01:06,380 --> 01:01:04,469
the website ngo prim calm this is my to

1244
01:01:08,089 --> 01:01:06,390
hang to the graylien report and you're

1245
01:01:10,039 --> 01:01:08,099
listening to jimmy church on fade to

1246
01:01:11,900 --> 01:01:10,049
black across the globe on the game

1247
01:01:14,790 --> 01:01:11,910
changer radio network and the one and

1248
01:01:22,930 --> 01:01:14,800
only kgr a radio the planet

1249
01:01:22,940 --> 01:01:31,070
we

1250
01:01:39,690 --> 01:01:37,970
[Music]

1251
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:39,700
all right welcome back

1252
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:51,350
texting live on the air

1253
01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:54,610
watching me do it gotta get it done man

1254
01:02:00,770 --> 01:01:58,960
you gotta get her done all right let's

1255
01:02:03,750 --> 01:02:00,780
see here

1256
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:03,760
Jimmy suggested I asked here how to

1257
01:02:09,660 --> 01:02:07,330
access the bunker cam just go to the

1258
01:02:13,590 --> 01:02:09,670
website go into the membership area and

1259
01:02:16,740 --> 01:02:13,600
click on bunker cam I believe that's how

1260
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:16,750
you do it right and I've never done it I

1261
01:02:22,020 --> 01:02:19,210
can't watch myself all right that would

1262
01:02:22,980 --> 01:02:22,030
you know I wonder if I can actually pull

1263
01:02:24,990 --> 01:02:22,990
that off

1264
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:25,000
I would but that would be weird let's

1265
01:02:30,060 --> 01:02:27,250
see I could meet it let me see

1266
01:02:31,830 --> 01:02:30,070
hold on that's interesting let's see so

1267
01:02:35,550 --> 01:02:31,840
you go here I'm clicking on the website

1268
01:02:39,390 --> 01:02:35,560
right I'm going to memberships member

1269
01:02:45,330 --> 01:02:39,400
login yes I'm here yep there it is

1270
01:02:58,880 --> 01:02:45,340
I have my own account bop bop bop let's

1271
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:04,590
okay I'm on my own site can you believe

1272
01:03:12,610 --> 01:03:18,680
bunker camp it's right here bunker cam

1273
01:03:25,730 --> 01:03:20,599
be any easier than that guys how would i

1274
01:03:34,370 --> 01:03:28,849
bunker cam is too high needs to be lower

1275
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:34,380
needs to be more like this yeah okay all

1276
01:03:37,130 --> 01:03:35,250
right I'm done

1277
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:37,140
let's see if that moves what's the delay

1278
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:43,650
here I saw about 10 seconds okay you

1279
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:44,730
guys are crazy

1280
01:03:50,270 --> 01:03:48,690
all right anyway three two three eight

1281
01:03:54,980 --> 01:03:50,280
two five five zero four five three two

1282
01:03:59,839 --> 01:03:54,990
three eight two five five zero four or

1283
01:04:02,450 --> 01:03:59,849
five and we're waiting for a couple of

1284
01:04:06,050 --> 01:04:02,460
other friends to drop by two as well so

1285
01:04:09,470 --> 01:04:06,060
I'll wait for those to come in and a

1286
01:04:16,270 --> 01:04:09,480
couple of things really quick all right

1287
01:04:19,010 --> 01:04:16,280
wow that's a trip okay is this eye

1288
01:04:24,740 --> 01:04:19,020
coming off of this frakking story and

1289
01:04:27,309 --> 01:04:24,750
one of the one of the one of the turkey

1290
01:04:31,069 --> 01:04:27,319
things that I talk about a lot here is

1291
01:04:34,069 --> 01:04:31,079
the the perils and dangers of journalism

1292
01:04:36,319 --> 01:04:34,079
journalists journalists around the world

1293
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:36,329
and it doesn't matter if you do radio if

1294
01:04:40,220 --> 01:04:38,010
you do television if you do print it

1295
01:04:44,290 --> 01:04:40,230
doesn't matter if you have a press pass

1296
01:04:49,309 --> 01:04:44,300
you have something that says media you

1297
01:04:52,190 --> 01:04:49,319
you should be protected right and it

1298
01:04:59,540 --> 01:04:52,200
doesn't it doesn't matter if you're a

1299
01:05:01,490 --> 01:04:59,550
criminal if you're Isis if you are the

1300
01:05:04,370 --> 01:05:01,500
banking industry you know whatever you

1301
01:05:08,930 --> 01:05:04,380
are walking around the red carpet you

1302
01:05:13,099 --> 01:05:08,940
know you're even a part of the paparazzi

1303
01:05:15,829 --> 01:05:13,109
right you you have a little shield

1304
01:05:19,790 --> 01:05:15,839
around you well you should

1305
01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:19,800
but journalism today is getting more and

1306
01:05:27,980 --> 01:05:23,609
more treacherous those out there that

1307
01:05:29,809 --> 01:05:27,990
that that take the chances and try to be

1308
01:05:31,460 --> 01:05:29,819
responsible to talk about things that

1309
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:31,470
are going on in the community or their

1310
01:05:37,549 --> 01:05:34,410
country whatever it may be

1311
01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:37,559
it is starting to become a job that

1312
01:05:43,819 --> 01:05:41,609
nobody wants and I had spoken a last

1313
01:05:46,190 --> 01:05:43,829
month of the month before about a you

1314
01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:46,200
know a newspaper in Mexico that just

1315
01:05:51,559 --> 01:05:48,960
literally decided to shut down because

1316
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:51,569
it was just too dangerous to keep the

1317
01:05:57,079 --> 01:05:53,730
newspaper running it had been you know

1318
01:05:58,910 --> 01:05:57,089
been in print for 30 years with a large

1319
01:06:04,880 --> 01:05:58,920
circulation that a large part of the

1320
01:06:06,620 --> 01:06:04,890
community is there for to you know get

1321
01:06:10,370 --> 01:06:06,630
their information on the community in

1322
01:06:13,579 --> 01:06:10,380
their City well Mexican journalist

1323
01:06:15,819 --> 01:06:13,589
Xavier Valdez is known first reporting

1324
01:06:19,519 --> 01:06:15,829
on drug trafficking and organized crime

1325
01:06:22,130 --> 01:06:19,529
was just shot and killed this happened

1326
01:06:25,609 --> 01:06:22,140
on Monday in the northwest state of

1327
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:25,619
Sinaloa and authorities reported that he

1328
01:06:32,599 --> 01:06:28,490
was on a busy street in broad daylight

1329
01:06:34,609 --> 01:06:32,609
when an unidentified car you know pulls

1330
01:06:38,539 --> 01:06:34,619
up and attackers jump out and just

1331
01:06:41,089 --> 01:06:38,549
opened fire on his car nobody caught the

1332
01:06:44,059 --> 01:06:41,099
state practices in front of everybody

1333
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:44,069
traffic the state prosecutor later told

1334
01:06:49,460 --> 01:06:47,250
reporters that a dozen bullet a dozen

1335
01:06:52,490 --> 01:06:49,470
bullets were found at the scene of the

1336
01:06:55,599 --> 01:06:52,500
crime and at the time he was killed he's

1337
01:07:01,069 --> 01:06:55,609
a very famous guy and he wore this uh

1338
01:07:04,370 --> 01:07:01,079
this straw hat right and he was shot in

1339
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:04,380
his car wearing that straw hat and he

1340
01:07:09,980 --> 01:07:06,240
was just a you know just a journalist

1341
01:07:13,010 --> 01:07:09,990
out there just writing and it's just

1342
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:13,020
it's just it tragic it just it I don't

1343
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:16,410
get it I don't get it you know when you

1344
01:07:20,569 --> 01:07:19,170
look at the old I want to welcome back

1345
01:07:22,039 --> 01:07:20,579
to the program our good friend Mike

1346
01:07:25,519 --> 01:07:22,049
Barrow doing the drive-by Mike how are

1347
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:25,529
you Mike are you there

1348
01:07:31,069 --> 01:07:29,130
uh yes okay don't you know don't freak

1349
01:07:35,930 --> 01:07:31,079
me out Berra when you do that moment I

1350
01:07:38,359 --> 01:07:35,940
like you know it's live radio man you

1351
01:07:40,849 --> 01:07:38,369
got to be ready I'm ready and I get the

1352
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:40,859
silence and it's just like okay here we

1353
01:07:46,450 --> 01:07:41,130
go

1354
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:46,460
think it's me right so I'm

1355
01:07:51,609 --> 01:07:49,010
here pushing buttons trying to figure it

1356
01:07:53,410 --> 01:07:51,619
out and then it all yeah it's kind of

1357
01:07:56,380 --> 01:07:53,420
like you're the teenage years right

1358
01:07:58,599 --> 01:07:56,390
where you know their stuff let's not

1359
01:08:02,470 --> 01:07:58,609
even make the analogy let's go well the

1360
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:02,480
funny part about it is a hundred percent

1361
01:08:07,690 --> 01:08:05,690
of the time it's the guest but I don't

1362
01:08:10,900 --> 01:08:07,700
know that I need you know I need to

1363
01:08:11,140 --> 01:08:10,910
confirm it's not me on my end right big

1364
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:11,150
guy

1365
01:08:15,250 --> 01:08:13,130
I've been looking at screens I'm

1366
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:15,260
pressing buttons I got to make sure and

1367
01:08:19,030 --> 01:08:17,210
you know you've been to the punker you

1368
01:08:20,440 --> 01:08:19,040
know there's a complicated setup that we

1369
01:08:22,420 --> 01:08:20,450
have here you know yeah and I'm sure

1370
01:08:24,849 --> 01:08:22,430
that you know you've probably made a

1371
01:08:27,039 --> 01:08:24,859
mistake maybe once so it's like oh my

1372
01:08:28,450 --> 01:08:27,049
god what if I made it again what if I

1373
01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:28,460
did a rookie mistake you know I got to

1374
01:08:32,170 --> 01:08:30,049
be a terrible thing right and it's

1375
01:08:34,030 --> 01:08:32,180
that's just a rookie mistake that always

1376
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:34,040
comes to mind well let me tell you what

1377
01:08:39,700 --> 01:08:37,250
what happened on Monday

1378
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:39,710
you know Freeman fly I'm on Freeman show

1379
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:42,290
he's out of these coasts and so I'm

1380
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:45,290
doing his show as I mean I'm a guest for

1381
01:08:50,769 --> 01:08:47,690
once right I'm doing his show and we

1382
01:08:53,410 --> 01:08:50,779
kept losing audio my audio but I could

1383
01:08:55,570 --> 01:08:53,420
hear myself and as it turned out because

1384
01:08:58,660 --> 01:08:55,580
we have such a complicated setup you

1385
01:09:00,910 --> 01:08:58,670
know I'm not trying to sound like I'm

1386
01:09:04,180 --> 01:09:00,920
boasting what I'm saying is we just have

1387
01:09:06,099 --> 01:09:04,190
a frigging complicated setup here to

1388
01:09:09,370 --> 01:09:06,109
make this show happen the way we do and

1389
01:09:11,590 --> 01:09:09,380
so there's many feeds that are going on

1390
01:09:14,410 --> 01:09:11,600
at the same time so if I hear myself

1391
01:09:16,030 --> 01:09:14,420
that just means that the microphone is

1392
01:09:19,209 --> 01:09:16,040
connected and that is going to the

1393
01:09:21,099 --> 01:09:19,219
headphone feed and and the interfaces

1394
01:09:23,470 --> 01:09:21,109
are working correctly and I'm looking at

1395
01:09:26,829 --> 01:09:23,480
meters that are running but that doesn't

1396
01:09:28,749 --> 01:09:26,839
necessarily mean my feed coming out to

1397
01:09:31,690 --> 01:09:28,759
him of which I've got four feet running

1398
01:09:33,849 --> 01:09:31,700
at the same time is not working I don't

1399
01:09:39,010 --> 01:09:33,859
know if it's him on but so when it

1400
01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:39,020
turned out to be a cable a cable and it

1401
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:40,880
took us a while to suss that out finally

1402
01:09:44,740 --> 01:09:42,170
us to do we got to stop the interview

1403
01:09:46,450 --> 01:09:44,750
and and I opened up a couple of cabinets

1404
01:09:48,010 --> 01:09:46,460
had a replacement cable brand-new and

1405
01:09:51,610 --> 01:09:48,020
the pan you know you know boom plugged

1406
01:09:56,770 --> 01:09:51,620
it in got fixed now the cable that I

1407
01:09:58,270 --> 01:09:56,780
replaced was new now who would now we're

1408
01:10:00,669 --> 01:09:58,280
going back to the rookie mistake point

1409
01:10:03,879 --> 01:10:00,679
right who would ever

1410
01:10:05,620 --> 01:10:03,889
check a brand-new cable you're not

1411
01:10:09,069 --> 01:10:05,630
nobody you know but it right where I

1412
01:10:11,709 --> 01:10:09,079
would you know it right and but I

1413
01:10:15,009 --> 01:10:11,719
wiggled it he goes I got you back on I

1414
01:10:16,989 --> 01:10:15,019
that it's that so anyway I replaced the

1415
01:10:20,319 --> 01:10:16,999
cable boom fine done everything is cool

1416
01:10:22,350 --> 01:10:20,329
but with you doing this right now after

1417
01:10:27,879 --> 01:10:22,360
what I just went through with Freeman

1418
01:10:30,250 --> 01:10:27,889
makes me go swittel cables I didn't have

1419
01:10:33,339 --> 01:10:30,260
to do that anyway my remember remember

1420
01:10:34,719 --> 01:10:33,349
Jimmy they had up they had a test at a

1421
01:10:36,549 --> 01:10:34,729
particle accelerator where they had a

1422
01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:36,559
particle that went faster than lightning

1423
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:38,719
they came back and said oh no no it was

1424
01:10:43,929 --> 01:10:41,090
it was just a loose cable they never

1425
01:10:47,799 --> 01:10:43,939
told us which cable it was oh I remember

1426
01:10:50,500 --> 01:10:47,809
that ass yes I remember I remember that

1427
01:10:51,910 --> 01:10:50,510
yeah and they admitted it I would have

1428
01:10:53,620 --> 01:10:51,920
made something up at that point

1429
01:10:56,469 --> 01:10:53,630
they did make it out there the part

1430
01:10:59,830 --> 01:10:56,479
about it being a loose cable what they

1431
01:11:01,239 --> 01:10:59,840
made up well Matt we see but maybe that

1432
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:01,249
was the truth and they shouldn't have

1433
01:11:07,270 --> 01:11:03,170
shouldn't they should you know something

1434
01:11:11,319 --> 01:11:07,280
more extreme right plan like the plasma

1435
01:11:15,370 --> 01:11:11,329
gas generators right I'd rather hear

1436
01:11:16,540 --> 01:11:15,380
that story right yeah but man it's good

1437
01:11:18,399 --> 01:11:16,550
to hear your voice you have been on the

1438
01:11:20,169 --> 01:11:18,409
show in quite a while you've been out

1439
01:11:24,189 --> 01:11:20,179
there busy doing your thing you've got a

1440
01:11:27,459 --> 01:11:24,199
new TV show out that I hear the the

1441
01:11:29,589 --> 01:11:27,469
birds out there saying it's pretty good

1442
01:11:34,979 --> 01:11:29,599
what's it called and when does it air oh

1443
01:11:38,589 --> 01:11:34,989
it's a it's a UFOs the untold the UH

1444
01:11:40,929 --> 01:11:38,599
the-- uncovered evidence the untold

1445
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:40,939
evidence the end i don't remember the

1446
01:11:45,759 --> 01:11:43,610
name of it wha it's uh no it's great

1447
01:11:48,910 --> 01:11:45,769
show it was a it's for it's actually on

1448
01:11:51,669 --> 01:11:48,920
American heroes Network right now and

1449
01:11:53,799 --> 01:11:51,679
it's UFOs the lost evidence I'm sorry to

1450
01:11:55,330 --> 01:11:53,809
the producers for that okay um and it's

1451
01:11:57,219 --> 01:11:55,340
kind of an ancient aliens kind of show

1452
01:11:59,229 --> 01:11:57,229
only it's a little bit more modern cases

1453
01:12:01,179 --> 01:11:59,239
and then what ancient aliens typically

1454
01:12:02,830 --> 01:12:01,189
takes on it's not ancient aliens and

1455
01:12:04,509 --> 01:12:02,840
it's it's one of these talking head

1456
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:04,519
shows I'm on it Nick Pope's on it

1457
01:12:09,939 --> 01:12:06,170
Dolan's on it we're all doing our thing

1458
01:12:11,259 --> 01:12:09,949
and and erricka Luke's is on it you know

1459
01:12:13,209 --> 01:12:11,269
we're all kind of doing our thing and

1460
01:12:14,440 --> 01:12:13,219
and it's been fun and I'm glad people

1461
01:12:16,570 --> 01:12:14,450
like it because I thought it

1462
01:12:18,850 --> 01:12:16,580
is pretty good it is in ancient aliens

1463
01:12:20,650 --> 01:12:18,860
good but what is right yeah well that's

1464
01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:20,660
what you know what that's a barometer

1465
01:12:26,590 --> 01:12:23,510
that's it you know you need to always

1466
01:12:28,300 --> 01:12:26,600
have something to try to best yeah I'm

1467
01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:28,310
getting better I mean it'll just keep

1468
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:29,450
getting better the more shows they

1469
01:12:33,100 --> 01:12:30,800
produce it's going to be for Discovery

1470
01:12:34,990 --> 01:12:33,110
Network so I mean it's shown on so far

1471
01:12:36,460 --> 01:12:35,000
the American heroes channel was the

1472
01:12:37,930 --> 01:12:36,470
first channel which is good to be you

1473
01:12:40,210 --> 01:12:37,940
know if I'm not an American Hero why am

1474
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:40,220
I on the American arrows channel and

1475
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:41,690
it's also going to be it's been on

1476
01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:44,210
destination America and I assume you

1477
01:12:47,890 --> 01:12:46,400
know knowing how discovery operates

1478
01:12:50,020 --> 01:12:47,900
having had experience with them before

1479
01:12:51,850 --> 01:12:50,030
with uncovering aliens that it'll

1480
01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:51,860
probably be on pretty much all their

1481
01:12:56,260 --> 01:12:53,120
networks by the time they get done with

1482
01:12:58,450 --> 01:12:56,270
it so on and how's the reception been so

1483
01:13:00,820 --> 01:12:58,460
far is the network happy how are the

1484
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:00,830
ratings been as as far as I know they're

1485
01:13:03,700 --> 01:13:02,210
happy I haven't really heard from the

1486
01:13:05,470 --> 01:13:03,710
producers you know right now we're just

1487
01:13:07,510 --> 01:13:05,480
tired hands me we're all a bunch of

1488
01:13:08,770 --> 01:13:07,520
mercenaries so they haven't really let

1489
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:08,780
us know but I haven't you know it's a

1490
01:13:12,910 --> 01:13:10,130
pretty good pretty strong production

1491
01:13:14,650 --> 01:13:12,920
company has done a lot of good shows and

1492
01:13:16,180 --> 01:13:14,660
I think that they'll probably be doing

1493
01:13:19,480 --> 01:13:16,190
more of them I certainly hope so it was

1494
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:19,490
fun so a season two I would think so

1495
01:13:23,230 --> 01:13:21,650
but I don't know yet okay all right well

1496
01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:23,240
and I'm waiting to hear waiting for them

1497
01:13:26,590 --> 01:13:24,800
to put money in my hand and then I start

1498
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:26,600
talking you know yeah man you know

1499
01:13:37,060 --> 01:13:33,170
networks uh networks are tough okay hold

1500
01:13:41,050 --> 01:13:37,070
on for a second and let me see here hold

1501
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:41,060
on just hang on George

1502
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:47,570
oh hey Berra yeah Where's George hi that

1503
01:13:53,950 --> 01:13:50,770
was that was nori calling right there

1504
01:13:57,130 --> 01:13:53,960
I'm going to put you on hold or I'm

1505
01:14:01,150 --> 01:13:57,140
going to I'm going to I'm actually Mike

1506
01:14:03,910 --> 01:14:01,160
call me on my other line and I'll split

1507
01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:03,920
this up and I'll bring George you've got

1508
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:05,450
the other line right you've got both

1509
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:07,970
well the other Skype line are the yeah

1510
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:09,890
the other Skype line Jimmy Church radio

1511
01:14:13,540 --> 01:14:11,810
okay I'll do that

1512
01:14:15,250 --> 01:14:13,550
yeah you have that okay call me on that

1513
01:14:19,810 --> 01:14:15,260
one and then we'll bring you in George

1514
01:14:23,290 --> 01:14:19,820
on together okay okay and I tried to

1515
01:14:26,109 --> 01:14:23,300
bring George on and it just didn't

1516
01:14:30,580 --> 01:14:26,119
happen so I'm going to go backwards here

1517
01:14:31,810 --> 01:14:30,590
and see if I can actually get George on

1518
01:14:39,870 --> 01:14:31,820
the line let's see here

1519
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:39,880
see if it happens George yes how are you

1520
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:48,879
plan your ear you have bearers here -

1521
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:50,690
yeah oh this is one of those

1522
01:14:57,100 --> 01:14:53,690
sneak-attack phone calls yes it is it is

1523
01:15:01,180 --> 01:14:57,110
and see what's funny I'll just let

1524
01:15:03,250 --> 01:15:01,190
everybody know George is actually doing

1525
01:15:06,459 --> 01:15:03,260
what he should be doing right now he is

1526
01:15:09,310 --> 01:15:06,469
working and he's cutting cameras in the

1527
01:15:11,500 --> 01:15:09,320
studio working right and and he sends me

1528
01:15:14,890 --> 01:15:11,510
this text church man I'm working some

1529
01:15:17,589 --> 01:15:14,900
people have to work and it's like you

1530
01:15:20,339 --> 01:15:17,599
know and and sure enough he took the

1531
01:15:24,189 --> 01:15:20,349
time to get out of the studio and and

1532
01:15:25,020 --> 01:15:24,199
and drop by and caught you mic here so

1533
01:15:27,370 --> 01:15:25,030
George

1534
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:27,380
welcome to the show really quick thank

1535
01:15:31,540 --> 01:15:29,449
you because again and I'm serious to the

1536
01:15:34,330 --> 01:15:31,550
audience here George is actually working

1537
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:34,340
right now but George is going to be a

1538
01:15:39,310 --> 01:15:37,010
contact in the desert this weekend like

1539
01:15:40,870 --> 01:15:39,320
always he's got a packed schedule George

1540
01:15:43,419 --> 01:15:40,880
what's going on out there for you this

1541
01:15:45,370 --> 01:15:43,429
year we're going to have a special lunch

1542
01:15:46,930 --> 01:15:45,380
in the Jimmy around the noon hour I'm

1543
01:15:50,109 --> 01:15:46,940
looking forward to that and then of

1544
01:15:52,450 --> 01:15:50,119
course our main panel at 2:30 in the

1545
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:52,460
amphitheater with the best-selling

1546
01:15:57,339 --> 01:15:55,010
author Erich von däniken Giorgio

1547
01:16:00,250 --> 01:15:57,349
tsoukalos Michael telander of course

1548
01:16:02,919 --> 01:16:00,260
will be with us Jason Martel Brien

1549
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:02,929
Foerster Chris Hardy and I'm looking

1550
01:16:06,339 --> 01:16:04,250
forward to it you know

1551
01:16:08,500 --> 01:16:06,349
George how come you get all the you know

1552
01:16:12,669 --> 01:16:08,510
how can we get all what's up with that

1553
01:16:16,899 --> 01:16:12,679
how can we get the good stuff because

1554
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:16,909
I'm a nice guy oh man I don't they just

1555
01:16:21,399 --> 01:16:19,010
put this great panel together for that

1556
01:16:23,530 --> 01:16:21,409
that's a good cable and and just like

1557
01:16:26,770 --> 01:16:23,540
last year this is what's really funny is

1558
01:16:30,850 --> 01:16:26,780
George and I always do our panels

1559
01:16:32,979 --> 01:16:30,860
back-to-back right so I'm walking off

1560
01:16:36,220 --> 01:16:32,989
the stage George is pulling up in a golf

1561
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:36,230
cart or vice versa and so this year as

1562
01:16:39,220 --> 01:16:38,690
soon as George is done with his we start

1563
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:39,230
our

1564
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:42,890
annele and we will be passing ships in

1565
01:16:47,229 --> 01:16:44,570
the night we're going to walk past each

1566
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:47,239
other and say hello and then keep on

1567
01:16:53,590 --> 01:16:50,210
working and so George after that what

1568
01:16:55,450 --> 01:16:53,600
are you doing after that I'm going to

1569
01:16:57,430 --> 01:16:55,460
just wander around the place probably

1570
01:16:59,380 --> 01:16:57,440
listen to you for a little bit and then

1571
01:17:01,030 --> 01:16:59,390
head back for a couple meetings I've got

1572
01:17:02,500 --> 01:17:01,040
Sunday morning so it's going to be

1573
01:17:04,330 --> 01:17:02,510
another one of those action-packed

1574
01:17:04,930 --> 01:17:04,340
weekends to me you know what you should

1575
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:04,940
do

1576
01:17:10,030 --> 01:17:07,850
George is Saturday night now I'm not I'm

1577
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:10,040
not committing you to anything but

1578
01:17:16,180 --> 01:17:13,250
Saturday night after my panel wraps up

1579
01:17:17,410 --> 01:17:16,190
it Melinda Leslie I should drag you down

1580
01:17:20,290 --> 01:17:17,420
for this she's going to be doing her

1581
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:20,300
night vision down on the cliff which is

1582
01:17:26,050 --> 01:17:22,730
right down from the amphitheater and

1583
01:17:27,940 --> 01:17:26,060
it's a crazy thing to go and you did it

1584
01:17:29,860 --> 01:17:27,950
years ago you're on the roof of a hole I

1585
01:17:32,590 --> 01:17:29,870
did it with her emcee with the late Edie

1586
01:17:35,580 --> 01:17:32,600
Grimsley on the top of a hotel in San

1587
01:17:38,940 --> 01:17:35,590
Jose California that's right and it was

1588
01:17:40,660 --> 01:17:38,950
unbelievable and I saw two UFOs doing

1589
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:40,670
90-degree angles

1590
01:17:46,450 --> 01:17:44,810
stopping starting weird stuff but you

1591
01:17:48,580 --> 01:17:46,460
can really see them with good

1592
01:17:51,700 --> 01:17:48,590
night-vision goggles and we're going to

1593
01:17:53,740 --> 01:17:51,710
be doing that again last year during it

1594
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:53,750
was during your birthday party last year

1595
01:18:01,120 --> 01:17:56,930
right so that's right yeah and and it

1596
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:01,130
went down in grand fashion that that

1597
01:18:05,740 --> 01:18:04,010
evening and to this day as you know

1598
01:18:07,270 --> 01:18:05,750
George have told the story many times I

1599
01:18:09,250 --> 01:18:07,280
don't want to bore everybody with it but

1600
01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:09,260
it's a life-changing experience when you

1601
01:18:13,450 --> 01:18:11,450
see something like that and until you do

1602
01:18:15,430 --> 01:18:13,460
you don't understand what you're

1603
01:18:17,710 --> 01:18:15,440
referring to here I'll tell you

1604
01:18:20,530 --> 01:18:17,720
something George the next night after

1605
01:18:23,620 --> 01:18:20,540
that which was Sunday night Mike Berra

1606
01:18:27,250 --> 01:18:23,630
and I and the rest of the fader knots we

1607
01:18:30,070 --> 01:18:27,260
were there with a night vision over at

1608
01:18:32,140 --> 01:18:30,080
the fader compound and Mike Barrett got

1609
01:18:34,330 --> 01:18:32,150
to see something in the sky with Richard

1610
01:18:36,820 --> 01:18:34,340
Dolan right there in the parking lot

1611
01:18:37,330 --> 01:18:36,830
right about it again it was happening

1612
01:18:39,850 --> 01:18:37,340
again

1613
01:18:42,970 --> 01:18:39,860
in the skies in Joshua Tree absolutely

1614
01:18:44,710 --> 01:18:42,980
not true absolutely sir frisbee that

1615
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:44,720
Jimmy was throwing up in the air like

1616
01:18:49,990 --> 01:18:48,050
you know hey George I'll tell you

1617
01:18:51,940 --> 01:18:50,000
something funny I hate to name-drop it

1618
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:51,950
this is exactly how it went down it's

1619
01:18:55,900 --> 01:18:53,210
myself and Dolan

1620
01:18:59,220 --> 01:18:55,910
Barun were tripping out and at that

1621
01:19:02,530 --> 01:18:59,230
moment at that moment judge up walks

1622
01:19:04,900 --> 01:19:02,540
David Wilcock and Corey Goode I'm not

1623
01:19:06,450 --> 01:19:04,910
making this up and they are walking up

1624
01:19:09,970 --> 01:19:06,460
we're standing there with night vision

1625
01:19:12,700 --> 01:19:09,980
tripping you know tripping our brains

1626
01:19:15,340 --> 01:19:12,710
out on what we're seeing and Wilcock and

1627
01:19:17,170 --> 01:19:15,350
good acted like it was nothing

1628
01:19:18,580 --> 01:19:17,180
we're like okay cool cool where's the

1629
01:19:20,770 --> 01:19:18,590
food yeah they're used to it they see

1630
01:19:23,140 --> 01:19:20,780
their use after every day it was like

1631
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:23,150
you know we are we are seriously

1632
01:19:26,860 --> 01:19:25,130
tripping out R out of our minds and they

1633
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:26,870
saw us tripping out and they're like

1634
01:19:32,950 --> 01:19:29,450
okay cool you know where's the food

1635
01:19:35,470 --> 01:19:32,960
Wow by the way I had eight deja boo'

1636
01:19:38,050 --> 01:19:35,480
experiences last year at Joshua Tree I

1637
01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:38,060
thought it was absolutely going insane

1638
01:19:44,550 --> 01:19:41,120
to me what would hate Asia boo feelings

1639
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:44,560
they've just there's some kind of vortex

1640
01:19:50,830 --> 01:19:47,770
there's something there in Joshua Tree

1641
01:19:53,890 --> 01:19:50,840
that does something electrically to your

1642
01:19:56,860 --> 01:19:53,900
brain it died and I I'm telling you I

1643
01:19:57,550 --> 01:19:56,870
was having these weird experiences every

1644
01:19:59,459 --> 01:19:57,560
half hour

1645
01:20:02,440 --> 01:19:59,469
it was weird what do you think it is

1646
01:20:06,250 --> 01:20:02,450
yeah what is it about Joshua Tree it's

1647
01:20:08,590 --> 01:20:06,260
not a joke it did you feel it too at you

1648
01:20:10,870 --> 01:20:08,600
know when I the second you get to that

1649
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:10,880
property out there the second you get to

1650
01:20:19,570 --> 01:20:15,650
it and you start to just what acclimate

1651
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:19,580
you realize it's special there is it's

1652
01:20:23,830 --> 01:20:21,770
it's a it's electromagnetic yes

1653
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:23,840
something something's going on out there

1654
01:20:27,010 --> 01:20:25,730
it's like Twilight Zone you know what I

1655
01:20:30,310 --> 01:20:27,020
mean you're going into another dimension

1656
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:30,320
and I know I said it's a little Bermuda

1657
01:20:34,570 --> 01:20:32,570
Triangle yes something there yeah

1658
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:34,580
there's no question about it and the

1659
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:37,250
other thing George as you know and mike

1660
01:20:42,940 --> 01:20:40,010
has pointed out many times you know 15

1661
01:20:46,990 --> 01:20:42,950
16 miles away is 29 palms Marine base

1662
01:20:48,940 --> 01:20:47,000
and that's right they don't care right

1663
01:20:51,550 --> 01:20:48,950
they're not scrambling Jets every time

1664
01:20:53,290 --> 01:20:51,560
something shows up in the skies they are

1665
01:20:55,780 --> 01:20:53,300
used to it that's the only thing I could

1666
01:20:57,070 --> 01:20:55,790
think of they know that their stuff

1667
01:21:00,570 --> 01:20:57,080
going on otherwise they would be

1668
01:21:03,820 --> 01:21:00,580
scrambling jets and helicopters 24/7

1669
01:21:05,290 --> 01:21:03,830
good point good point so I'll be looking

1670
01:21:06,580 --> 01:21:05,300
forward to seeing you out there my

1671
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:06,590
friend yep absolute

1672
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:08,690
and we'll stop by your little luncheon

1673
01:21:12,550 --> 01:21:10,610
of course then we'll hang out on our

1674
01:21:14,020 --> 01:21:12,560
panels together just a little bit and

1675
01:21:15,700 --> 01:21:14,030
then enjoy the rest of the evening

1676
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:15,710
together thank you so much gorge on it

1677
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:18,170
my friend oh it might be well - yeah

1678
01:21:21,220 --> 01:21:20,690
he's in charge there you go thank you

1679
01:21:26,350 --> 01:21:21,230
George

1680
01:21:28,450 --> 01:21:26,360
stress with everybody that we are

1681
01:21:31,180 --> 01:21:28,460
scheduling our friends to stop by

1682
01:21:34,780 --> 01:21:31,190
tonight but all of us including Mike and

1683
01:21:37,810 --> 01:21:34,790
and Clyde a Clyde Lewis was just on with

1684
01:21:42,310 --> 01:21:37,820
us Mike and everybody everybody is is

1685
01:21:44,170 --> 01:21:42,320
getting ready for tomorrow and George's

1686
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:44,180
is backed up and working tonight he's

1687
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:46,610
got a show tonight and he's there

1688
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:49,010
recording and doing some other stuff in

1689
01:21:53,290 --> 01:21:51,410
some production and said you know what

1690
01:21:55,870 --> 01:21:53,300
you know it's the fate or not I get that

1691
01:21:58,030 --> 01:21:55,880
Jimmy so let me see what I can you know

1692
01:21:59,620 --> 01:21:58,040
and how cool is that that he takes the

1693
01:22:01,240 --> 01:21:59,630
time to stop by and say hello to the

1694
01:22:03,490 --> 01:22:01,250
Phaedra now it's pretty cool he

1695
01:22:07,210 --> 01:22:03,500
obviously values your audience to it to

1696
01:22:10,510 --> 01:22:07,220
a high degree well you know we were

1697
01:22:16,500 --> 01:22:10,520
talking the other day and and I'll just

1698
01:22:21,370 --> 01:22:16,510
say this he he made a point to say that

1699
01:22:23,110 --> 01:22:21,380
me being over at coast is something

1700
01:22:25,570 --> 01:22:23,120
special because the fader nods in the

1701
01:22:28,810 --> 01:22:25,580
crowd you know goes over to coast and

1702
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:28,820
they benefit from that but also I have

1703
01:22:34,330 --> 01:22:31,730
an approach to the show that is you know

1704
01:22:37,180 --> 01:22:34,340
you know a little bit different and that

1705
01:22:39,070 --> 01:22:37,190
a traditional Coast audience gets

1706
01:22:40,450 --> 01:22:39,080
something a little bit different a

1707
01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:40,460
little more adventurous you know I'm out

1708
01:22:46,330 --> 01:22:43,040
of my mind and what what have you so

1709
01:22:48,610 --> 01:22:46,340
they get that but on the vice-versa side

1710
01:22:52,510 --> 01:22:48,620
of that is the coast audience gets

1711
01:22:55,690 --> 01:22:52,520
exposed to fade to black so the two of

1712
01:22:59,050 --> 01:22:55,700
them coexist and feed off each other and

1713
01:23:00,760 --> 01:22:59,060
and it's a really really cool symbiotic

1714
01:23:03,310 --> 01:23:00,770
relationship I mean between the

1715
01:23:05,860 --> 01:23:03,320
audience's you know and that's end and

1716
01:23:09,820 --> 01:23:05,870
that that just means a lot to me that

1717
01:23:13,480 --> 01:23:09,830
it's recognized one too from our side

1718
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:13,490
for fade to black for the for the for

1719
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:15,290
the fainter knots out there to hear me

1720
01:23:20,500 --> 01:23:18,770
on coast that is awesome for them I yeah

1721
01:23:21,959 --> 01:23:20,510
it really is it's a

1722
01:23:25,030 --> 01:23:21,969
it like you said it's kind of a weird

1723
01:23:26,110 --> 01:23:25,040
symbiotic relationship and it's a you

1724
01:23:28,780 --> 01:23:26,120
know just one that I think it's going to

1725
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:28,790
keep growing well and I'm just I'm glad

1726
01:23:32,410 --> 01:23:30,290
that they had the vision for that

1727
01:23:34,780 --> 01:23:32,420
instead of making a competitive and

1728
01:23:38,189 --> 01:23:34,790
might and be negative about like Clyde

1729
01:23:42,030 --> 01:23:38,199
Lewis you know here's Clyde ground-zero

1730
01:23:45,220 --> 01:23:42,040
syndicated great show he's a great host

1731
01:23:48,939 --> 01:23:45,230
but we're doing this together and we we

1732
01:23:52,180 --> 01:23:48,949
do a simulcast of two radio broadcast

1733
01:23:54,850 --> 01:23:52,190
together at the same time who does that

1734
01:23:58,600 --> 01:23:54,860
yeah you know that's cool yes yes yes

1735
01:24:01,870 --> 01:23:58,610
it's a it's it's a lot of fun and for

1736
01:24:04,209 --> 01:24:01,880
for Clyde myself and George for the

1737
01:24:07,030 --> 01:24:04,219
audience out there to see that unity and

1738
01:24:10,180 --> 01:24:07,040
it's all good man you know it's all good

1739
01:24:13,630 --> 01:24:10,190
it just it just sends the right message

1740
01:24:16,959 --> 01:24:13,640
to everybody and very very very proud of

1741
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:16,969
that now okay I might even know let me

1742
01:24:25,450 --> 01:24:21,850
see here who do we have coming up next

1743
01:24:27,130 --> 01:24:25,460
let's see here okay you know action on

1744
01:24:29,140 --> 01:24:27,140
pins and needles I'm all tingly and well

1745
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:29,150
yeah yeah yeah yeah well actually I

1746
01:24:33,250 --> 01:24:30,770
think I might keep you after the break

1747
01:24:36,340 --> 01:24:33,260
because we're coming up to a break what

1748
01:24:38,020 --> 01:24:36,350
I wanted to ask you about is your

1749
01:24:38,950 --> 01:24:38,030
presentations up to contact in the

1750
01:24:42,130 --> 01:24:38,960
desert what are you going to be doing

1751
01:24:44,020 --> 01:24:42,140
this weekend I'm going to be doing NASA

1752
01:24:46,300 --> 01:24:44,030
and a secret space program which is my

1753
01:24:47,500 --> 01:24:46,310
current book hidden agenda NASA and the

1754
01:24:49,260 --> 01:24:47,510
secret space programs I'm going to be

1755
01:24:51,340 --> 01:24:49,270
doing that I've got some updates from

1756
01:24:53,979 --> 01:24:51,350
earlier this year so if you saw me in

1757
01:24:55,900 --> 01:24:53,989
Orange County or LA doing this

1758
01:24:58,600 --> 01:24:55,910
presentation or up in San Francisco

1759
01:24:59,800 --> 01:24:58,610
where I caught stars from Giorgio by all

1760
01:25:00,820 --> 01:24:59,810
means come by because I got some new

1761
01:25:02,350 --> 01:25:00,830
stuff for you it's really interesting

1762
01:25:03,550 --> 01:25:02,360
and intriguing something in fact just

1763
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:03,560
happened today that's a major

1764
01:25:08,110 --> 01:25:05,690
development and I'll be doing a free

1765
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:08,120
lecture on I think it is Saturday

1766
01:25:11,530 --> 01:25:09,650
afternoon where I'm going to be

1767
01:25:12,850 --> 01:25:11,540
basically just updating everybody on all

1768
01:25:14,620 --> 01:25:12,860
the things we'd like to talk about on

1769
01:25:18,370 --> 01:25:14,630
Ceres you know we had a big discussion

1770
01:25:21,970 --> 01:25:18,380
on Ceres at the at the event in Big Bear

1771
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:21,980
year and a half ago two years ago and so

1772
01:25:25,660 --> 01:25:23,210
there's just like lots of new

1773
01:25:28,380 --> 01:25:25,670
information on a lot of this stuff and

1774
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:28,390
we'll be talking just a little bit of

1775
01:25:34,179 --> 01:25:31,250
secret societies and ancient aliens and

1776
01:25:35,589 --> 01:25:34,189
and the deep state

1777
01:25:36,729 --> 01:25:35,599
this national security state and all

1778
01:25:38,319 --> 01:25:36,739
that stuff that Dylan likes to talk

1779
01:25:40,839 --> 01:25:38,329
about so we got we got quite a few

1780
01:25:45,159 --> 01:25:40,849
things I'll be doing a panel on Sunday I

1781
01:25:47,739 --> 01:25:45,169
am taking Kim Carlsberg place I guess on

1782
01:25:49,739 --> 01:25:47,749
Sunday night what happened yeah she

1783
01:25:51,729 --> 01:25:49,749
apparently she had to cancel today so

1784
01:25:53,259 --> 01:25:51,739
I'm going to be stepping in and doing

1785
01:25:54,580 --> 01:25:53,269
something else which I'm you know

1786
01:25:56,379 --> 01:25:54,590
frantically trying to put together right

1787
01:25:58,060 --> 01:25:56,389
now but I have the cool thing about me

1788
01:25:59,319 --> 01:25:58,070
church is I have so much stuff to talk

1789
01:26:01,540 --> 01:25:59,329
about that I never get enough time to

1790
01:26:03,129 --> 01:26:01,550
talk anyway so I can just talk to my

1791
01:26:06,189 --> 01:26:03,139
heart's content this weekend we go I do

1792
01:26:07,689 --> 01:26:06,199
you know what happened to Kim no I don't

1793
01:26:09,909 --> 01:26:07,699
know anything I don't want to I'm not

1794
01:26:12,549 --> 01:26:09,919
throwing anybody another but I don't

1795
01:26:19,209 --> 01:26:12,559
know quite frankly I don't know but all

1796
01:26:22,209 --> 01:26:19,219
of her web sites are down there go yeah

1797
01:26:26,229 --> 01:26:22,219
and and I was kind of tripping on that

1798
01:26:29,290 --> 01:26:26,239
like man what's up with Kim and I was

1799
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:29,300
looking forward to going up to her and

1800
01:26:33,310 --> 01:26:31,010
say you know what's up but you have

1801
01:26:37,149 --> 01:26:33,320
other links is it that these are badly

1802
01:26:39,879 --> 01:26:37,159
what is going on here but there you go

1803
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:39,889
so she won't be a contact in the delight

1804
01:26:43,299 --> 01:26:41,449
yeah I know she was well enough to uh

1805
01:26:45,250 --> 01:26:43,309
send an email today and say that she

1806
01:26:47,290 --> 01:26:45,260
couldn't make it so you know hopefully

1807
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:47,300
it's nothing like any kind of serious

1808
01:26:51,459 --> 01:26:48,530
illness or anything like that

1809
01:26:52,089 --> 01:26:51,469
we don't know wow wow wow wow wow that's

1810
01:26:54,250 --> 01:26:52,099
crazy

1811
01:26:56,469 --> 01:26:54,260
Wow breaking news yeah where can you

1812
01:26:59,560 --> 01:26:56,479
make a black radio well the other of

1813
01:27:02,830 --> 01:26:59,570
course as you know Jim Marrs is is down

1814
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:02,840
for the count and and we have you know

1815
01:27:09,819 --> 01:27:05,449
Peter Levin deceptive to fill those

1816
01:27:12,370 --> 01:27:09,829
shoes too as well you know and for for

1817
01:27:14,770 --> 01:27:12,380
anybody out there obviously our thoughts

1818
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:14,780
are with Jim Marrs but you definitely

1819
01:27:19,810 --> 01:27:17,449
want that call right hey can you make

1820
01:27:21,339 --> 01:27:19,820
out the contact in the yes I can let you

1821
01:27:24,219 --> 01:27:21,349
know I can make against those right now

1822
01:27:26,949 --> 01:27:24,229
and also also Jonathan e West let's not

1823
01:27:29,290 --> 01:27:26,959
forget about I know I know I know and

1824
01:27:30,729 --> 01:27:29,300
here we are doing I'm going to take a

1825
01:27:32,949 --> 01:27:30,739
break right here Mike you know I'm

1826
01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:32,959
hosting the forbidden archeology panel

1827
01:27:37,989 --> 01:27:35,840
and just like you last year I'm gonna

1828
01:27:41,199 --> 01:27:37,999
put another I got to put an empty chair

1829
01:27:43,290 --> 01:27:41,209
on the stage right am I on that one I

1830
01:27:46,719 --> 01:27:43,300
we're going to take a break right here

1831
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:46,729
our guest right now Mike Berra it is

1832
01:27:48,390 --> 01:27:47,290
open

1833
01:27:49,590 --> 01:27:48,400
mine's right now it's eight or nine

1834
01:28:04,800 --> 01:27:49,600
three two three eighty five five zero

1835
01:28:07,710 --> 01:28:04,810
four five Alberta way out here we listen

1836
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:07,720
to Jimmy Church you're listening to fade

1837
01:28:13,230 --> 01:28:11,050
to black always on the edge of the

1838
01:28:20,810 --> 01:28:13,240
hottest alternative talk chilly church

1839
01:28:25,230 --> 01:28:24,000
just like Mario continent people on the

1840
01:28:32,730 --> 01:28:25,240
pelicans which everyone of you own

1841
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:32,740
teammate radio n time is not what you

1842
01:28:37,770 --> 01:28:35,170
thought in their new book 12 24 36

1843
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1844
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1845
01:28:43,980 --> 01:28:41,950
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1846
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:43,990
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1847
01:28:49,950 --> 01:28:48,010
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1848
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1849
01:28:53,790 --> 01:28:51,880
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1850
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1851
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1852
01:29:00,540 --> 01:28:58,270
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1853
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1854
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1855
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1856
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1857
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1858
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1859
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black with ginger on the game changing

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Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

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listening to me church this is

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revolution the revolution will not be

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televised the revolution is on radio

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black

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I'm real Jimmy Turks you can follow me

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on Twitter at Jay Church radio simple at

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j-turns radio I'm talking to Mike Berra

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he's our current drive-by victim and you

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can follow Mike at Mike Barratt 33 and

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the 33 is there because that's how old

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he is and ordered since way sighs it's

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one of the other no I wish I was only a

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30 man oh those days are gone

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remember that episode of Seinfeld when

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he was changing the size on his Levi's

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no I didn't watch that like yes I got to

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help you but now no it's funny man he

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gets busted right Elaine catchy she's

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looking at it she's like you changed the

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way sighs you know on the onda and the

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leather pads on the back of the lead

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piezos got the waist size on it so he's

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going to his waist size to the smaller

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size and I'm so with him on that man I'm

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so with them yeah I remember the days

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when I used to wear 2833 well you can

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get there again yeah actually you know I

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got to tell you how the other day I was

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looking at that famous picture of you

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with the skinny legs and the big jams on

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the guitar and the long hair and I was

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thinking to myself God you know I'm

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gonna sneak up on this guy next time

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Halloween comes around and I'm in LA I'm

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going to go as Jimmy Church and I look

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at that picture and I realized that had

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to be shirtless and I was like man I I

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wouldn't do Jimmy Church shirtless

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either so they could tell that not to

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say beige on that one that's a

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frightening side now I take a shower

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with the shirt on now man yeah you know

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look we can get back there just a

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question of at this point I think in our

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lives we both reach the age you know you

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before me but we've both reached the age

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where I think it's like is it worth the

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pain that we have to go through to look

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good anymore and I don't know I'm not

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sure it is yeah yeah I know I know about

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see this 2017 so I'm going to go back to

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2007 about ten years ago

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um I just went on this health kick you

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know and and and got the weight back

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down right and I'm going to tell you and

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I spent like six months four months six

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months on that and they just where it

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wasn't worth it to me

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I I just it wasn't that much fun was it

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no I ain't really fun I mean I ask a

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question or any mother really Mike Mike

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you know how Reid and I live our lives

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and and that we live our lives around

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and anybody out there that's ever that

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that questions my integrity or Who I am

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or where I come from or what you know

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that you know that I'm full of crap and

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so they don't know that our life is

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built on integrity and our life is built

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on friends and ceremony and you know

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get-togethers and food and drink and

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01:34:47,570 --> 01:34:44,159
conversation you know and life is

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special so therefore I'm not going to

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give up grilling two-inch steaks with

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with mashed potatoes and green beans

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casserole and a really good salad and an

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01:35:03,649 --> 01:35:01,770
evening of chilled vodka and sitting

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around and hanging I'm not gonna I'm not

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just not going to give that up I enjoy

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it I just enjoy too much I yeah it's

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it's really literate it's about quality

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at this point in life not not quantities

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that's exactly the point

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all right now this is what I wanted to

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ask you Mike I'm going to throw you I'm

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going to I'm hoping I'm going to catch

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you a little bit off guard that I want

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to do this

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without discussing politics right let's

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not all great Karen just put up your oh

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my goodness I should retweet that with a

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little ftp hat oh my goodness gracious

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alright I'll retweet this all right hold

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on retweet here we go this is the pic

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this is the pic that Mike uses at his

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seminars that's I'm that's my there you

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go

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I'm just need that guitar and that's my

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Halloween costume

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you know I'm going to say this was 1980

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I'm going to say eight close enough

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somewhere in there right now period and

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this this pic that we just posted up

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here it was that contact in the desert

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and I walk in to see how Mike is doing

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and the place is packed there's like 700

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people in there and packed and I walk in

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and at that moment Barry goes and Timmy

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Church is here and what I and everybody

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01:36:38,820 --> 01:36:36,969
applauds right and I'm like why would

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01:36:42,660 --> 01:36:38,830
everybody applauded for that what I

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01:36:46,140 --> 01:36:42,670
didn't realize that Mike had just posted

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01:36:49,140 --> 01:36:46,150
this pic to the audience and so they got

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a good laugh and then now the fat Jimmy

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01:36:56,399 --> 01:36:53,100
watch it then you know come on your

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heart okay so I'm not you know so so

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anyway and it's up on the Jumbotrons

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01:37:03,899 --> 01:37:01,239
right on both sides of the stage yeah

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01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:03,909
and I walked up and stood in front of

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01:37:08,430 --> 01:37:06,730
this pick for every that was that was

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01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:08,440
hilarious it was a life because I was

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01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:12,250
life-size right yes yeah you were beyond

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01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:14,650
that you were epically life-sized yeah

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oh my goodness gracious those are good

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01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:18,969
days the only thing missing from that

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01:37:23,070 --> 01:37:21,370
picture is the big fake sausage bulge

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01:37:23,399 --> 01:37:23,080
right below the guitar that's what we

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01:37:25,350 --> 01:37:23,409
needed

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01:37:27,450 --> 01:37:25,360
yeah really cap but that was a better

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01:37:28,709 --> 01:37:27,460
staple of the 80s so you needed that you

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01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:28,719
know that's not what's special about

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01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:30,850
this picture Mike if you look really

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01:37:35,250 --> 01:37:33,370
close it's that couch in the background

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01:37:37,860 --> 01:37:35,260
is that the scariest thing you've ever

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01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:37,870
seen in your life look at this yeah on

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01:37:45,330 --> 01:37:40,210
that couch from the 1980s don't we Jimmy

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01:37:48,300 --> 01:37:45,340
look at the stains on that couch I don't

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01:37:51,810 --> 01:37:48,310
even want to know I don't even want to

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01:37:52,860 --> 01:37:51,820
know okay is this not to talk politics I

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01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:52,870
don't want to do that man we've got a

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01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:54,850
bunch of phone calls coming in yeah you

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01:37:59,910 --> 01:37:57,850
know Mike I almost need to look

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01:38:02,729 --> 01:37:59,920
everybody calling in call in on the

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01:38:04,919 --> 01:38:02,739
other number and I'm going to pull it in

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01:38:06,510 --> 01:38:04,929
on that phone line and I have to do that

2042
01:38:07,070 --> 01:38:06,520
for a reason they'll make me explain

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01:38:15,470 --> 01:38:07,080
that

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01:38:17,900 --> 01:38:15,480
2 7 5 9 6 9 5 call 2 3 2 3 2 7 5 9 6 9 5

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01:38:19,670 --> 01:38:17,910
the audio the path that I've got things

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01:38:22,790 --> 01:38:19,680
set up okay there you go see people are

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01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:22,800
listening they're actually listening all

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01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:24,810
right you're live a listing dies right

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01:38:31,190 --> 01:38:26,370
right you're live on paid to block who's

2050
01:38:34,340 --> 01:38:31,200
calling 8 Jimmy this is Ray hey ray how

2051
01:38:37,070 --> 01:38:34,350
are you say hi to Mike Berra Mike it's

2052
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:37,080
great to hear you I'm interested in the

2053
01:38:42,860 --> 01:38:39,690
whole program you're doing nice just

2054
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:42,870
nice to meet you right ray so ray what

2055
01:38:47,990 --> 01:38:45,930
time your mind tonight my friend well I

2056
01:38:49,730 --> 01:38:48,000
got to listen like and he's doing the

2057
01:38:54,440 --> 01:38:49,740
the secret Spacely

2058
01:38:56,860 --> 01:38:54,450
right mm-hmm okay yeah slash back to I

2059
01:39:00,950 --> 01:38:56,870
had to get a hold of Peter Davenport

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01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:00,960
this is back in 2013 about September

2061
01:39:07,370 --> 01:39:04,050
26th I do a little bit of astronomy in

2062
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:07,380
my backyard and I was getting ready to

2063
01:39:14,900 --> 01:39:10,050
set up and just out looking at the sky

2064
01:39:18,980 --> 01:39:14,910
we start to turn dark and I noticed

2065
01:39:22,010 --> 01:39:18,990
coming from the north-northwest what

2066
01:39:22,670 --> 01:39:22,020
looked like a little white patch of

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01:39:24,860 --> 01:39:22,680
cloud

2068
01:39:27,110 --> 01:39:24,870
well I'd looked at it a little bit

2069
01:39:30,500 --> 01:39:27,120
longer and it it was moving and was

2070
01:39:33,550 --> 01:39:30,510
moving pretty quick well I'm in Turlock

2071
01:39:38,090 --> 01:39:33,560
California and just north of us is

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01:39:41,750 --> 01:39:38,100
Modesto and over Modesto at about 23 24

2073
01:39:44,780 --> 01:39:41,760
thousand feet is traffic that goes to

2074
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:44,790
San Francisco so I've got a pretty good

2075
01:39:49,190 --> 01:39:48,210
idea of you know traffic in the area and

2076
01:39:51,380 --> 01:39:49,200
altitude

2077
01:39:54,380 --> 01:39:51,390
well this cloud looked like it was about

2078
01:39:58,700 --> 01:39:54,390
three times the height of that and it

2079
01:40:02,240 --> 01:39:58,710
came from what I what I guess is like

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01:40:03,830 --> 01:40:02,250
from Travis okay right right right right

2081
01:40:06,470 --> 01:40:03,840
right you had to know the lay of the

2082
01:40:10,220 --> 01:40:06,480
land out here but the the high desert

2083
01:40:16,850 --> 01:40:10,230
area Central Valley of Central

2084
01:40:20,550 --> 01:40:16,860
California yeah it Nora thought it was

2085
01:40:24,150 --> 01:40:20,560
coming from about 3 3 0 degrees

2086
01:40:27,930 --> 01:40:24,160
and I was way up there now with with an

2087
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:27,940
outstretched hand with my thumb and

2088
01:40:35,300 --> 01:40:32,250
index finger it was about an inch wide

2089
01:40:38,370 --> 01:40:35,310
okay and I estimated that to be at about

2090
01:40:40,290 --> 01:40:38,380
60,000 feet so it's big

2091
01:40:41,850 --> 01:40:40,300
whatever it is it's bad that's about as

2092
01:40:43,620 --> 01:40:41,860
big as a football stadium

2093
01:40:45,390 --> 01:40:43,630
yeah yeah that's what I was thinking

2094
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:45,400
yeah something like that yeah

2095
01:40:52,710 --> 01:40:48,610
and it that's word and Ray how fast was

2096
01:40:54,870 --> 01:40:52,720
it going well you know how your time

2097
01:40:57,840 --> 01:40:54,880
stance kind of changes when when you're

2098
01:41:01,800 --> 01:40:57,850
excited and you see something cool

2099
01:41:04,890 --> 01:41:01,810
I want to say that it passed right

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01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:04,900
directly over me and was gone in like 12

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01:41:09,930 --> 01:41:08,290
seconds so from 60,000 feet okay now so

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01:41:13,710 --> 01:41:09,940
you're talking to the right guy in mic

2103
01:41:16,140 --> 01:41:13,720
Berra mic at 60,000 feet something that

2104
01:41:18,060 --> 01:41:16,150
is traveling it let's say six hundred

2105
01:41:18,780 --> 01:41:18,070
eight hundred miles an hour a thousand

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01:41:22,020 --> 01:41:18,790
miles an hour

2107
01:41:23,550 --> 01:41:22,030
it's just plugging along right it's not

2108
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:23,560
it's you know what I mean it's not

2109
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:24,250
moving

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01:41:31,470 --> 01:41:29,170
across the sky but at 2,000 feet if

2111
01:41:33,990 --> 01:41:31,480
something moves like this that Ray is

2112
01:41:36,900 --> 01:41:34,000
referencing what are we talking about

2113
01:41:38,820 --> 01:41:36,910
here Mach 5 Mach 10 no no I don't think

2114
01:41:40,260 --> 01:41:38,830
it's that fast because really I mean

2115
01:41:41,730 --> 01:41:40,270
you're talking about a very large object

2116
01:41:46,020 --> 01:41:41,740
said you said what it took about 12

2117
01:41:48,630 --> 01:41:46,030
seconds to go from across well I had it

2118
01:41:52,260 --> 01:41:48,640
from about 35 degrees above the horizon

2119
01:41:55,170 --> 01:41:52,270
to the north to about 40 degrees south

2120
01:41:58,820 --> 01:41:55,180
of me so it's covering you know about

2121
01:42:04,200 --> 01:41:58,830
150 degrees of the sky at 60,000 feet

2122
01:42:06,180 --> 01:42:04,210
150 how many seconds about 12 seconds

2123
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:06,190
that's all I do Mike that's a big chunk

2124
01:42:10,740 --> 01:42:09,010
of the sky man yeah it is but the thing

2125
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:10,750
is again you don't know for sure what

2126
01:42:15,390 --> 01:42:12,730
the height of the object is and the size

2127
01:42:17,190 --> 01:42:15,400
of it it it's I mean I think that could

2128
01:42:18,660 --> 01:42:17,200
be subsonic and it was a straight Lee

2129
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:18,670
was a straight line trajectory is that

2130
01:42:24,690 --> 01:42:21,970
correct it was doing was right there

2131
01:42:26,700 --> 01:42:24,700
couth the thing it my best estimate like

2132
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:26,710
I said was the traffic that's making

2133
01:42:30,570 --> 01:42:29,170
their approaches to San Francisco mm-hmm

2134
01:42:33,780 --> 01:42:30,580
you know the right but I mean let me

2135
01:42:35,580 --> 01:42:33,790
clear ng to be an inch across

2136
01:42:37,590 --> 01:42:35,590
even if it was only 5,000 feet that's

2137
01:42:39,210 --> 01:42:37,600
that's a pretty enormous object so

2138
01:42:41,340 --> 01:42:39,220
that's what makes it unusual is the size

2139
01:42:44,070 --> 01:42:41,350
of it you know the other stuff it's hard

2140
01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:44,080
to calculate depending on on you just

2141
01:42:46,770 --> 01:42:45,520
got it you got to know certain factors

2142
01:42:48,150 --> 01:42:46,780
you got to know how high up it is you

2143
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:48,160
don't know that for sure well you know

2144
01:42:53,460 --> 01:42:50,530
it but this is what's interesting here

2145
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:53,470
it looked like a cloud but a cloud

2146
01:43:00,630 --> 01:42:56,170
doesn't travel like that at that height

2147
01:43:04,260 --> 01:43:00,640
so are we talking about an object that

2148
01:43:06,510 --> 01:43:04,270
was maybe cold and had some you know was

2149
01:43:10,470 --> 01:43:06,520
surrounded by something natural

2150
01:43:13,650 --> 01:43:10,480
or was it some type of cloaked object

2151
01:43:15,780 --> 01:43:13,660
that was being hidden but certainly it's

2152
01:43:18,210 --> 01:43:15,790
going to be a natural cloud I wouldn't

2153
01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:18,220
think right Mike no I would explain

2154
01:43:22,290 --> 01:43:19,600
maybe I think that that part about

2155
01:43:24,060 --> 01:43:22,300
scenario degree is probably yeah I'm

2156
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:24,070
probably pretty close to what you're

2157
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:25,090
talking about any of that that would

2158
01:43:28,440 --> 01:43:26,770
probably the best explanation for what

2159
01:43:29,940 --> 01:43:28,450
you saw but this reminds me of something

2160
01:43:31,470 --> 01:43:29,950
I think it's pretty important that

2161
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:31,480
people should think about if they get a

2162
01:43:34,620 --> 01:43:33,250
chance while they're having an

2163
01:43:37,530 --> 01:43:34,630
experience like this which is that if

2164
01:43:39,540 --> 01:43:37,540
there's any clouds in the sky try to

2165
01:43:42,180 --> 01:43:39,550
make note of whether it passes in front

2166
01:43:44,970 --> 01:43:42,190
of or behind the clouds because if you

2167
01:43:46,500 --> 01:43:44,980
if you can you know it's easy to find

2168
01:43:49,890 --> 01:43:46,510
out what the ceiling is or where the

2169
01:43:51,450 --> 01:43:49,900
cloud cover is for any given day in any

2170
01:43:53,670 --> 01:43:51,460
given area and that is really really

2171
01:43:56,820 --> 01:43:53,680
helpful in determining size and distance

2172
01:43:58,830 --> 01:43:56,830
and and the high altitude so you know

2173
01:44:00,120 --> 01:43:58,840
again this is a small thing but it's

2174
01:44:01,950 --> 01:44:00,130
something if you think about it try to

2175
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:01,960
think to think to yourself well then it

2176
01:44:05,010 --> 01:44:03,250
passed in front of the clouds or behind

2177
01:44:06,620 --> 01:44:05,020
clouds if there's no clouds you know

2178
01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:06,630
there's nothing you can do about it but

2179
01:44:16,860 --> 01:44:09,280
that isn't like when I got up here about

2180
01:44:19,620 --> 01:44:16,870
60 degrees elevation it changed it way

2181
01:44:21,660 --> 01:44:19,630
you know like I said it was it looked

2182
01:44:24,750 --> 01:44:21,670
like a white cloud to start out with

2183
01:44:28,260 --> 01:44:24,760
that's when it was low yeah 35 degrees

2184
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:28,270
on the horizon as it came towards over

2185
01:44:34,650 --> 01:44:31,650
the top of me it turned into

2186
01:44:37,710 --> 01:44:34,660
distinguishable lights on the bottom of

2187
01:44:40,230 --> 01:44:37,720
it and as it approached over the top of

2188
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:40,240
me I could definitely see the the

2189
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:42,730
chevron outline and I counted the lights

2190
01:44:47,610 --> 01:44:45,250
there were 15 of them and they were a

2191
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:47,620
white yellowish color

2192
01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:49,570
well that changes things all together I

2193
01:44:53,690 --> 01:44:51,520
didn't hear did you say that originally

2194
01:44:57,930 --> 01:44:53,700
did I miss that

2195
01:45:01,650 --> 01:44:57,940
didn't say - it's okay ray I apologize

2196
01:45:04,530 --> 01:45:01,660
that just went right past me Mike so

2197
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:04,540
that now it was a cloak dog object

2198
01:45:08,100 --> 01:45:06,730
yeah and several Severn shaped objects

2199
01:45:11,460 --> 01:45:08,110
are something that we've been seeing

2200
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:11,470
more of probably in the last 20 years or

2201
01:45:16,890 --> 01:45:14,130
so since the since the Phoenix lights

2202
01:45:20,250 --> 01:45:16,900
sighting and I do tend to think these

2203
01:45:22,500 --> 01:45:20,260
are these are our experimental aircraft

2204
01:45:25,050 --> 01:45:22,510
but I'm not positive of that but they're

2205
01:45:28,260 --> 01:45:25,060
definitely you know a new a fairly new

2206
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:28,270
phenomenon and the boomerang Chevron's

2207
01:45:32,550 --> 01:45:30,130
shape so they're definitely something

2208
01:45:35,570 --> 01:45:32,560
different different and interesting and

2209
01:45:38,850 --> 01:45:35,580
you know again I I'm just like if

2210
01:45:40,470 --> 01:45:38,860
something moves in a completely straight

2211
01:45:44,090 --> 01:45:40,480
line and a ballistic on a ballistic

2212
01:45:47,820 --> 01:45:44,100
trajectory then I tend to think it's

2213
01:45:49,530 --> 01:45:47,830
some sort of subsonic probably human

2214
01:45:52,050 --> 01:45:49,540
design human built craft that may be

2215
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:52,060
very very advanced but isn't necessarily

2216
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:53,730
extraterrestrial but I don't know that

2217
01:45:59,640 --> 01:45:56,530
for sure and a lot of it to Jimmy is

2218
01:46:01,530 --> 01:45:59,650
like how weird does it make you feel you

2219
01:46:03,180 --> 01:46:01,540
know if it makes you feel really weird I

2220
01:46:06,900 --> 01:46:03,190
got a feeling that maybe you're seeing

2221
01:46:10,620 --> 01:46:06,910
something that's not from here so how

2222
01:46:15,540 --> 01:46:10,630
does that make you feel right well I've

2223
01:46:17,730 --> 01:46:15,550
seen lots of unidentified objects over

2224
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:17,740
the years I haven't had first contact

2225
01:46:24,150 --> 01:46:22,090
but ever since the age of 10 I grew up

2226
01:46:28,140 --> 01:46:24,160
just north you c'mon we'll town called

2227
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:28,150
Cielo and I'm sitting at the living in a

2228
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:31,170
house the second story window faces west

2229
01:46:36,260 --> 01:46:34,210
towards the hills and one night my

2230
01:46:39,630 --> 01:46:36,270
younger brother and I were looking out

2231
01:46:44,010 --> 01:46:39,640
we see what looks like a meteorite

2232
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:44,020
coming down only it stops and then goes

2233
01:46:50,010 --> 01:46:46,330
up and then comes down and then goes up

2234
01:46:51,930 --> 01:46:50,020
again in the shape of a W and he had to

2235
01:46:54,420 --> 01:46:51,940
call me here about two months ago and

2236
01:46:57,690 --> 01:46:54,430
said hey was that real or was that a

2237
01:47:01,830 --> 01:46:57,700
dream you know I was pin and he was

2238
01:47:05,610 --> 01:47:01,840
eight and I consistently seen objects

2239
01:47:10,650 --> 01:47:05,620
over the years in the Navy I did three

2240
01:47:13,830 --> 01:47:10,660
tours Vietnam shipboard and we sit off

2241
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:13,840
the coast of the DMZ for like forty-five

2242
01:47:18,630 --> 01:47:16,810
days of this stretch and I go out at

2243
01:47:23,010 --> 01:47:18,640
nighttime and just stare up I see all

2244
01:47:25,740 --> 01:47:23,020
kinds of squirrely things I white

2245
01:47:28,890 --> 01:47:25,750
objects that are going much faster than

2246
01:47:32,250 --> 01:47:28,900
the SRS because I I have since worked

2247
01:47:36,810 --> 01:47:32,260
with the Jim Sullivan who was one of the

2248
01:47:42,270 --> 01:47:36,820
SR drivers and that was a lot of fun

2249
01:47:46,350 --> 01:47:42,280
that's another story well so it appeared

2250
01:47:49,230 --> 01:47:46,360
to me at the time I saw it that it was

2251
01:47:52,230 --> 01:47:49,240
military because it did go in a straight

2252
01:47:54,210 --> 01:47:52,240
line and I'm like hey if I was et I

2253
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:54,220
certainly wouldn't want to travel in a

2254
01:47:59,490 --> 01:47:56,130
straight line no that's dull and boring

2255
01:48:01,260 --> 01:47:59,500
and who do I know that would go in a

2256
01:48:04,470 --> 01:48:01,270
straight line from point A to point B

2257
01:48:08,730 --> 01:48:04,480
with no deviation and military stripes

2258
01:48:10,440 --> 01:48:08,740
right every time right ray did you take

2259
01:48:13,530 --> 01:48:10,450
pictures before I let you go did you

2260
01:48:15,660 --> 01:48:13,540
take pictures I didn't have a chance to

2261
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:15,670
get the camera I was trying to brick

2262
01:48:19,470 --> 01:48:16,890
with a house to get a searchlight

2263
01:48:20,970 --> 01:48:19,480
because I keep one there so that I can

2264
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:20,980
flash at them to see if I get any

2265
01:48:24,870 --> 01:48:23,050
response yeah it's usually how it goes

2266
01:48:26,940 --> 01:48:24,880
all right right thank you for the phone

2267
01:48:28,410 --> 01:48:26,950
column thank you for that very

2268
01:48:29,670 --> 01:48:28,420
interesting I'm looking at some of the

2269
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:29,680
numbers that are being posted in the

2270
01:48:34,980 --> 01:48:32,290
chat room and they're talking about if

2271
01:48:35,220 --> 01:48:34,990
it's 30 times that altitude at 2,000

2272
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:35,230
feet

2273
01:48:40,890 --> 01:48:37,930
blah twelve seconds to take now they're

2274
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:40,900
talking about you know Mach big numbers

2275
01:48:46,140 --> 01:48:43,210
you know fourteen thousand miles an hour

2276
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:46,150
you know I calculated a little bit over

2277
01:48:51,480 --> 01:48:48,970
Mach three right and that's that you

2278
01:48:53,910 --> 01:48:51,490
know if I got my time sense correct and

2279
01:48:56,970 --> 01:48:53,920
I tried from the moment I saw it because

2280
01:49:00,210 --> 01:48:56,980
I knew it was unusual I tried to keep a

2281
01:49:02,250 --> 01:49:00,220
mental tab of 1,001 1,002 1,003

2282
01:49:04,890 --> 01:49:02,260
wrote through the whole thing right by

2283
01:49:06,900 --> 01:49:04,900
the time I got to 12 it was gone yeah

2284
01:49:08,610 --> 01:49:06,910
and it was ever so there was no sonic

2285
01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:08,620
boom as it broke through or anything

2286
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:11,410
like that so it will already at no eight

2287
01:49:15,689 --> 01:49:12,610
o'clock yeah

2288
01:49:19,140 --> 01:49:15,699
and and with also um you know Mach three

2289
01:49:21,090 --> 01:49:19,150
is not an impossible speed for human

2290
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:21,100
aircraft to a chain in the atmosphere

2291
01:49:24,959 --> 01:49:23,650
it's it's not so you know I don't know

2292
01:49:25,379 --> 01:49:24,969
what it was but it sounds pretty

2293
01:49:28,290 --> 01:49:25,389
interesting

2294
01:49:30,270 --> 01:49:28,300
Jaqueline give you definitely won this

2295
01:49:33,390 --> 01:49:30,280
big a rate thank you for the phone call

2296
01:49:35,340 --> 01:49:33,400
my friend Jimmy thank you so much and

2297
01:49:37,500 --> 01:49:35,350
Mike take care and I hope to read some

2298
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:37,510
of your articles soon thanks right well

2299
01:49:43,709 --> 01:49:39,610
that'd be cool thank you so much right

2300
01:49:46,350 --> 01:49:43,719
and I remember I forget the researcher

2301
01:49:50,250 --> 01:49:46,360
you may remember this Mike there's a

2302
01:49:53,820 --> 01:49:50,260
researcher that was out manases so many

2303
01:49:56,399 --> 01:49:53,830
years ago but he was out at the Nevada

2304
01:49:59,390 --> 01:49:56,409
Test range in that area right area 50

2305
01:50:03,600 --> 01:49:59,400
went out there in the desert and was

2306
01:50:06,590 --> 01:50:03,610
clocking these orbs that were skimming

2307
01:50:10,290 --> 01:50:06,600
across the top of the desert right and

2308
01:50:12,870 --> 01:50:10,300
that he felt I think that the origin was

2309
01:50:14,970 --> 01:50:12,880
area 51 and those orbs have been seen

2310
01:50:16,979 --> 01:50:14,980
out there forever right that part's not

2311
01:50:19,979 --> 01:50:16,989
a big deal but apparently he got a good

2312
01:50:23,390 --> 01:50:19,989
vantage point over a number of days

2313
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:23,400
where it would come down south out of

2314
01:50:30,209 --> 01:50:26,530
area 51 out of the test site and they go

2315
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:30,219
along the desert floor and then I don't

2316
01:50:36,330 --> 01:50:33,250
know if it would pass him or how it

2317
01:50:37,979 --> 01:50:36,340
ended anyway he would do just that the

2318
01:50:40,370 --> 01:50:37,989
one one thousand two one thousand three

2319
01:50:43,290 --> 01:50:40,380
one thousand right in these videos and

2320
01:50:46,290 --> 01:50:43,300
and then estimated these speeds and

2321
01:50:48,540 --> 01:50:46,300
these speeds were like at you know six

2322
01:50:51,260 --> 01:50:48,550
thousand miles an hour and they're on

2323
01:50:54,750 --> 01:50:51,270
the video but there's no sonic boom

2324
01:50:58,169 --> 01:50:54,760
now now these are orbs maybe there isn't

2325
01:51:00,600 --> 01:50:58,179
any wind it's a light anomaly may be

2326
01:51:02,570 --> 01:51:00,610
some kind of type of plasma thing but to

2327
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:02,580
have that kind of speed at ground level

2328
01:51:08,250 --> 01:51:04,690
you would think you would be knocked

2329
01:51:10,220 --> 01:51:08,260
down by the sonic boom right you might

2330
01:51:12,959 --> 01:51:10,230
you know I you know I don't know it's

2331
01:51:17,310 --> 01:51:12,969
the thing is is that it you know these

2332
01:51:19,919 --> 01:51:17,320
kinds of speeds are again I think

2333
01:51:22,410 --> 01:51:19,929
they're attainable for conventional

2334
01:51:24,300 --> 01:51:22,420
aircraft but at great risk and only at

2335
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:24,310
really high altitude I wouldn't ever

2336
01:51:26,350 --> 01:51:25,810
expect you to be able to get for that

2337
01:51:29,770 --> 01:51:26,360
kind of speed

2338
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:29,780
you know near the near the the lakebed

2339
01:51:35,290 --> 01:51:32,810
so I mean it's that's pretty interesting

2340
01:51:36,970 --> 01:51:35,300
stuff have you know about it have you

2341
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:36,980
ever been in the presence of a sonic

2342
01:51:43,060 --> 01:51:40,010
boom oh yeah in fact there was a time a

2343
01:51:46,540 --> 01:51:43,070
Christmas time in the Palm Springs area

2344
01:51:48,820 --> 01:51:46,550
where all of a sudden this huge boom

2345
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:48,830
just shook the windows and rattled the

2346
01:51:53,620 --> 01:51:51,050
whole house I was there with my family

2347
01:51:55,810 --> 01:51:53,630
my cousins and my mom and it was pretty

2348
01:51:58,330 --> 01:51:55,820
freaky it was it was bad it was like

2349
01:52:00,760 --> 01:51:58,340
what the Space Shuttle land right right

2350
01:52:02,890 --> 01:52:00,770
well what's what's going on was it weird

2351
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:02,900
by this past Christmas what year was

2352
01:52:10,750 --> 01:52:07,210
that oh that was um I'm going to say

2353
01:52:12,700 --> 01:52:10,760
2008 2009 2007 somewhere in there you

2354
01:52:14,290 --> 01:52:12,710
know about ten years ago and one of the

2355
01:52:16,209 --> 01:52:14,300
one of the funnest times to be in

2356
01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:16,219
California when it comes to sonic booms

2357
01:52:22,450 --> 01:52:19,730
was the mid 80s and you know people talk

2358
01:52:26,500 --> 01:52:22,460
about it all the time now today but we

2359
01:52:29,530 --> 01:52:26,510
were going through it back then and the

2360
01:52:31,390 --> 01:52:29,540
it got to the point where and it felt to

2361
01:52:32,620 --> 01:52:31,400
me this is what my memory says I would

2362
01:52:34,689 --> 01:52:32,630
have to go back and look at with the

2363
01:52:38,109 --> 01:52:34,699
actual data but it seemed like it was

2364
01:52:40,990 --> 01:52:38,119
like Monday and Tuesday morning 10

2365
01:52:46,359 --> 01:52:41,000
o'clock 9 o'clock in the morning boom

2366
01:52:51,010 --> 01:52:46,369
right and it got so regular that's

2367
01:52:53,950 --> 01:52:51,020
summer of 84 85 86 it was a weekly thing

2368
01:52:56,140 --> 01:52:53,960
sometimes even a daily thing and it

2369
01:52:58,419 --> 01:52:56,150
would shake everything the windows right

2370
01:53:01,149 --> 01:52:58,429
I mean everything on the coffee table

2371
01:53:04,510 --> 01:53:01,159
would you know move it was like crazy

2372
01:53:07,689 --> 01:53:04,520
loud and and then the report started to

2373
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:07,699
come in not only via the newspaper and

2374
01:53:13,090 --> 01:53:11,449
the news but rumors and the rumors were

2375
01:53:14,010 --> 01:53:13,100
this this is what was going on all over

2376
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:14,020
the place

2377
01:53:18,580 --> 01:53:16,610
it's the Space Shuttle that was at the

2378
01:53:21,310 --> 01:53:18,590
beginning right it's the Space Shuttle

2379
01:53:25,780 --> 01:53:21,320
and then the news started saying wait a

2380
01:53:26,890 --> 01:53:25,790
minute there's no shuttle there's a

2381
01:53:29,530 --> 01:53:26,900
shuttle launch

2382
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:29,540
there's no Space Shuttle up there

2383
01:53:35,740 --> 01:53:32,170
there's no space shuttle returning

2384
01:53:38,169 --> 01:53:35,750
therefore what the heck is going on well

2385
01:53:39,729 --> 01:53:38,179
public public Space Shuttle but there's

2386
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:39,739
been rumors you know for years and years

2387
01:53:42,450 --> 01:53:40,210
and years

2388
01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:42,460
there was two or three other shuttles

2389
01:53:45,870 --> 01:53:43,450
that were built that were actually

2390
01:53:48,750 --> 01:53:45,880
private you know secret dark space

2391
01:53:52,020 --> 01:53:48,760
program absolutely you know the line out

2392
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:52,030
of Edwards yeah out of Edwards and

2393
01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:53,890
landing in the Mojave no doubt about

2394
01:53:59,010 --> 01:53:56,050
that but then there was the other spin

2395
01:54:01,979 --> 01:53:59,020
that started to surface and this was

2396
01:54:05,130 --> 01:54:01,989
this was not only in the media down here

2397
01:54:09,390 --> 01:54:05,140
but again it was like these rumors about

2398
01:54:11,790 --> 01:54:09,400
this secret Aurora plane and I started

2399
01:54:14,250 --> 01:54:11,800
Aurora started to pop up like in Popular

2400
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:14,260
Mechanics and mark McCandlish is doing

2401
01:54:19,860 --> 01:54:15,610
paintings you know you know what I mean

2402
01:54:23,340 --> 01:54:19,870
this this Aurora thing started to to

2403
01:54:26,130 --> 01:54:23,350
take hold and I think that and this

2404
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:26,140
wasn't I want to say this to everybody

2405
01:54:29,490 --> 01:54:27,370
what I'm not talking about the

2406
01:54:32,010 --> 01:54:29,500
paranormal community the conspiracy

2407
01:54:33,300 --> 01:54:32,020
community that you know that no that's

2408
01:54:35,490 --> 01:54:33,310
not what I'm referring to here I'm

2409
01:54:37,650 --> 01:54:35,500
talking about everybody in the streets

2410
01:54:40,850 --> 01:54:37,660
of LA was getting their houses shook

2411
01:54:43,170 --> 01:54:40,860
right and and so these rumors were

2412
01:54:45,420 --> 01:54:43,180
they've got a secret space plane it's

2413
01:54:46,860 --> 01:54:45,430
flying over to New York you know that

2414
01:54:49,709 --> 01:54:46,870
was the thing and then it's going to

2415
01:54:51,690 --> 01:54:49,719
return eventually and then and because

2416
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:51,700
these sonic booms I don't know how many

2417
01:54:56,580 --> 01:54:52,450
there were

2418
01:55:00,300 --> 01:54:56,590
it just seems to me my memory was it was

2419
01:55:03,390 --> 01:55:00,310
like weekly for a while it was like it

2420
01:55:05,750 --> 01:55:03,400
you know and sometimes it was daily boom

2421
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:05,760
Wow in a morning I had a cat named or

2422
01:55:11,130 --> 01:55:09,850
never at night trip on that it was never

2423
01:55:13,830 --> 01:55:11,140
at night was always in the morning

2424
01:55:15,540 --> 01:55:13,840
always in the morning you know you're

2425
01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:15,550
getting up drinking your coffee you're

2426
01:55:19,290 --> 01:55:17,650
at work whatever but it was always in

2427
01:55:21,330 --> 01:55:19,300
the morning and the sonic booms it was

2428
01:55:24,630 --> 01:55:21,340
like I said it was a crazy time now that

2429
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:24,640
I look back at it doing what I do now

2430
01:55:29,490 --> 01:55:27,250
and knowing what I know now man I wish

2431
01:55:34,110 --> 01:55:29,500
that stuff would go on now but this is

2432
01:55:35,729 --> 01:55:34,120
the tricky part it stopped right yeah

2433
01:55:37,890 --> 01:55:35,739
well they completed the test program

2434
01:55:39,959 --> 01:55:37,900
well yeah whatever they were doing was

2435
01:55:42,479 --> 01:55:39,969
over with so it's like I okay I need to

2436
01:55:44,490 --> 01:55:42,489
do that or or this is the other thing

2437
01:55:47,190 --> 01:55:44,500
that if I'm going to postulate I'm going

2438
01:55:48,930 --> 01:55:47,200
to speculate on this they just moved it

2439
01:55:51,209 --> 01:55:48,940
maybe they're doing it out over the

2440
01:55:52,850 --> 01:55:51,219
ocean because the public started to take

2441
01:55:55,130 --> 01:55:52,860
notice

2442
01:55:57,320 --> 01:55:55,140
yes that does happen I mean definitely

2443
01:55:59,510 --> 01:55:57,330
at that you know that's what I think

2444
01:56:01,640 --> 01:55:59,520
happened with Kenneth Arnold and and the

2445
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:01,650
Roswell crash I think I think Kenneth

2446
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:03,810
Arnold actually the sighting was

2447
01:56:10,580 --> 01:56:06,290
actually a sighting of us testing

2448
01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:10,590
captured redesigned German Horton a Joe

2449
01:56:15,950 --> 01:56:13,530
229 bombers jet bombers that were flying

2450
01:56:18,020 --> 01:56:15,960
wings right from the Germans and that

2451
01:56:19,340 --> 01:56:18,030
they thought well McChord Air Force Base

2452
01:56:20,870 --> 01:56:19,350
is really remote up there in the Pacific

2453
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:20,880
Northwest there's nobody there

2454
01:56:25,090 --> 01:56:22,770
Arnold season are like well this is not

2455
01:56:27,890 --> 01:56:25,100
remote enough at the time this area was

2456
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:27,900
uninhabited really and then I think they

2457
01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:29,370
moved him to Roswell and it's probably

2458
01:56:33,620 --> 01:56:32,130
what what crashed near Roswell that's

2459
01:56:36,230 --> 01:56:33,630
what I suspect I'll have to run that by

2460
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:36,240
him Don Schmitt when I see him but what

2461
01:56:44,450 --> 01:56:41,610
if we if we think about that the speed

2462
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:44,460
that Kenneth Arnold again right he was

2463
01:56:48,860 --> 01:56:47,010
calculating speed manually he was

2464
01:56:51,290 --> 01:56:48,870
talking about thousands of miles an hour

2465
01:56:53,540 --> 01:56:51,300
the Horton could could it couldn't have

2466
01:56:54,740 --> 01:56:53,550
done that I mean no it couldn't but

2467
01:56:56,300 --> 01:56:54,750
what's interesting about it is he also

2468
01:56:58,340 --> 01:56:56,310
described you know what the reason was

2469
01:57:02,570 --> 01:56:58,350
called a flying saucer was because it

2470
01:57:04,670 --> 01:57:02,580
kind of skipped and you know jumped and

2471
01:57:06,230 --> 01:57:04,680
was very unstable in the air and that's

2472
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:06,240
the problem with flying wings that's why

2473
01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:08,010
we can never perfect them until the b2

2474
01:57:12,260 --> 01:57:10,290
was that they are an inherently unstable

2475
01:57:14,390 --> 01:57:12,270
airframe without a tail to stabilize it

2476
01:57:16,430 --> 01:57:14,400
aerodynamically so they tended to be

2477
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:16,440
really hard to fly and jump and skip

2478
01:57:20,780 --> 01:57:18,090
around and I mean if you talk if you

2479
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:20,790
think about that that is a really

2480
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:22,890
precise description of what I would

2481
01:57:29,300 --> 01:57:26,970
think a 1947 experimental flying wing

2482
01:57:30,950 --> 01:57:29,310
jet aircraft would would look like in

2483
01:57:32,930 --> 01:57:30,960
performance so it's possible he

2484
01:57:35,180 --> 01:57:32,940
miscalculated you know again without

2485
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:35,190
certain knowledge without knowing the

2486
01:57:39,290 --> 01:57:37,410
exact distance without knowing the size

2487
01:57:41,900 --> 01:57:39,300
it's really hard to calculate speed

2488
01:57:43,970 --> 01:57:41,910
unless it just moves so incredibly fast

2489
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:43,980
you can't even you know it's like

2490
01:57:47,390 --> 01:57:45,690
Fernando Alonso going by you on the main

2491
01:57:47,870 --> 01:57:47,400
straightaway at Indianapolis that's that

2492
01:57:53,030 --> 01:57:47,880
fast

2493
01:57:54,140 --> 01:57:53,040
you so much Mike you're the best and

2494
01:57:55,700 --> 01:57:54,150
we'll see you tomorrow night

2495
01:57:59,450 --> 01:57:55,710
come hang out with the fader nods over

2496
01:58:01,010 --> 01:57:59,460
the Joshua Tree saloon at the party safe

2497
01:58:02,970 --> 01:58:01,020
travels my friend we'll see you tomorrow

2498
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:02,980
night eye contact in the desert

2499
01:58:17,850 --> 01:58:11,410
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2550
02:00:19,870 --> 02:00:18,170
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2551
02:00:21,700 --> 02:00:19,880
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2552
02:00:24,430 --> 02:00:21,710
anyways so come on over and meet me out

2553
02:00:27,510 --> 02:00:24,440
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2554
02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:27,520
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2555
02:00:31,390 --> 02:00:29,690
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2565
02:01:06,819 --> 02:00:54,710
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2566
02:01:10,959 --> 02:01:06,829
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2567
02:01:14,260 --> 02:01:10,969
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2568
02:01:18,149 --> 02:01:14,270
ponies I'm serious I couldn't stay sane

2569
02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:18,159
without poor mr. Bush why page black

2570
02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:26,270
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2571
02:01:32,090 --> 02:01:28,410
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2572
02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:32,100
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2573
02:01:45,709 --> 02:01:34,490
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2574
02:01:49,250 --> 02:01:45,719
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2575
02:01:52,590 --> 02:01:49,260
all right welcome back fade to black

2576
02:01:55,350 --> 02:01:52,600
I'm you know Jimmy Church on the game

2577
02:01:57,780 --> 02:01:55,360
changing I work in kg RA the planet

2578
02:02:00,060 --> 02:01:57,790
follow me on Twitter I J trips radios

2579
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:00,070
Twitter smoking tonight love smoking

2580
02:02:06,570 --> 02:02:03,130
every night but for some reason there is

2581
02:02:08,850 --> 02:02:06,580
a there is a collection of yours truly

2582
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:08,860
in the 1980s that has been circulating

2583
02:02:16,350 --> 02:02:12,250
the web and and there they all are in

2584
02:02:19,439 --> 02:02:16,360
their splendor man man man painful

2585
02:02:23,970 --> 02:02:19,449
painful classic picture that picture of

2586
02:02:32,580 --> 02:02:23,980
me dressed as a bumblebee that was at

2587
02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:32,590
the whiskey in 1985 1985 I'm pretty sure

2588
02:02:37,649 --> 02:02:34,570
well I'm just looking into what I'm

2589
02:02:42,030 --> 02:02:37,659
wearing so it better about 1985 right

2590
02:02:45,090 --> 02:02:42,040
and there you go and that guitar that

2591
02:02:47,729 --> 02:02:45,100
guitar was only used that one year so 84

2592
02:02:49,979 --> 02:02:47,739
and the other guitar in the background

2593
02:02:55,620 --> 02:02:49,989
those were both replaced and retired

2594
02:02:57,780 --> 02:02:55,630
shortly after that so yeah 84 1984 on

2595
02:02:59,970 --> 02:02:57,790
the Sunset Strip there you go you want

2596
02:03:04,649 --> 02:02:59,980
to see that picture just got a stag f2b

2597
02:03:07,380 --> 02:03:04,659
and and there you go alright three two

2598
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:07,390
three two seven five nine six nine five

2599
02:03:10,950 --> 02:03:09,130
and we're going to have another drive-by

2600
02:03:12,990 --> 02:03:10,960
here in just a bit but in the meantime

2601
02:03:16,860 --> 02:03:13,000
let's go back to the phones hi you're

2602
02:03:19,340 --> 02:03:16,870
live on paid to block Jerry Casper parks

2603
02:03:22,620 --> 02:03:19,350
hey Casper parks how are you my friend

2604
02:03:25,229 --> 02:03:22,630
do it all had such a blessed evening I I

2605
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:25,239
went and saw the Canadian band Bleeker

2606
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:27,730
play this app tonight oh and how would i

2607
02:03:34,830 --> 02:03:31,770
oh it's fabulous well they got a hit a

2608
02:03:36,870 --> 02:03:34,840
highway in Canada and I think plants and

2609
02:03:37,919 --> 02:03:36,880
they're doing the US was a small show

2610
02:03:40,709 --> 02:03:37,929
maybe 100 people

2611
02:03:42,330 --> 02:03:40,719
he got balanced that there had all the

2612
02:03:44,630 --> 02:03:42,340
young people a lot of 18 year olds there

2613
02:03:46,860 --> 02:03:44,640
in early 20s that not like a campfire

2614
02:03:50,189 --> 02:03:46,870
pass the mic around they were singing

2615
02:03:51,780 --> 02:03:50,199
the circle was really craving and I got

2616
02:03:55,560 --> 02:03:51,790
a chance to visit with the band for a

2617
02:03:58,740 --> 02:03:55,570
while I gave them some books on and

2618
02:04:01,170 --> 02:03:58,750
the thing is that real because even

2619
02:04:02,850 --> 02:04:01,180
girls new film all acknowledged is all

2620
02:04:07,020 --> 02:04:02,860
you know the documentary so I'm pushing

2621
02:04:09,600 --> 02:04:07,030
that whenever I can and um those guys

2622
02:04:11,250 --> 02:04:09,610
the damn Bleeker totally into everything

2623
02:04:14,910 --> 02:04:11,260
they're aware of time belong in his work

2624
02:04:17,940 --> 02:04:14,920
right arm they were like really dialed

2625
02:04:19,350 --> 02:04:17,950
kind of into it to a degree so I wrote

2626
02:04:20,940 --> 02:04:19,360
everything down forms of it for

2627
02:04:23,460 --> 02:04:20,950
documentaries when they get off tour

2628
02:04:25,350 --> 02:04:23,470
they can watch it and your parents were

2629
02:04:27,150 --> 02:04:25,360
into it if you talked about that missing

2630
02:04:29,460 --> 02:04:27,160
generation which is like the kings and

2631
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:29,470
twenty-somethings you know and you know

2632
02:04:34,680 --> 02:04:32,410
it kind of it was a chance to focus on a

2633
02:04:36,090 --> 02:04:34,690
man so now I'm talking them for Lavo the

2634
02:04:37,830 --> 02:04:36,100
music industry because it's far

2635
02:04:40,980 --> 02:04:37,840
different than when you're not involved

2636
02:04:42,930 --> 02:04:40,990
with right right a Casper you know

2637
02:04:45,330 --> 02:04:42,940
what's really cool to have an author

2638
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:45,340
like you call into the show like this

2639
02:04:50,790 --> 02:04:48,370
and then and I hope you're ready because

2640
02:04:53,460 --> 02:04:50,800
on the other line I have the one and

2641
02:04:57,540 --> 02:04:53,470
only the director that is so good

2642
02:05:00,990 --> 02:04:57,550
he has three names Jeremy Kenyon well

2643
02:05:03,180 --> 02:05:01,000
actually for he's got for Jeremy Canyon

2644
02:05:07,140 --> 02:05:03,190
locked her Korbel Jeremy welcome to the

2645
02:05:07,650 --> 02:05:07,150
show my friend LRU hey Jamie really good

2646
02:05:10,530 --> 02:05:07,660
how are you

2647
02:05:12,240 --> 02:05:10,540
say hi to Casper parks the authors is

2648
02:05:17,870 --> 02:05:12,250
right next to you on the show say hi to

2649
02:05:21,450 --> 02:05:17,880
Casper hey Casper how's it going hi

2650
02:05:23,730 --> 02:05:21,460
Casper are you okay did you yeah yeah no

2651
02:05:27,270 --> 02:05:23,740
I'm fine I'm fine I'm fine I was just uh

2652
02:05:29,610 --> 02:05:27,280
that documentaries are so good and when

2653
02:05:32,340 --> 02:05:29,620
I watched it there's something about the

2654
02:05:34,770 --> 02:05:32,350
cattle mutilations that you know that's

2655
02:05:36,480 --> 02:05:34,780
been around for a while and then all of

2656
02:05:38,910 --> 02:05:36,490
a sudden something popped in my head

2657
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:38,920
that I hadn't thought about the cabinet

2658
02:05:42,570 --> 02:05:40,930
I mean you know about them and this is

2659
02:05:44,610 --> 02:05:42,580
why you think you know everything in a

2660
02:05:46,770 --> 02:05:44,620
lot of its ass but you watch it

2661
02:05:47,850 --> 02:05:46,780
refreshes you and sometimes you're able

2662
02:05:50,190 --> 02:05:47,860
to look at something from a different

2663
02:05:51,870 --> 02:05:50,200
perspective and I came up with a whole

2664
02:05:53,880 --> 02:05:51,880
new theory on cattle mutilations

2665
02:05:55,530 --> 02:05:53,890
completely different but I'll take

2666
02:05:57,060 --> 02:05:55,540
anyone said yet I'm going to finish

2667
02:05:59,070 --> 02:05:57,070
research can it before I throw it out

2668
02:06:01,260 --> 02:05:59,080
there but I got a whole new theory on it

2669
02:06:03,210 --> 02:06:01,270
well I want to have that and then I

2670
02:06:04,890 --> 02:06:03,220
watch the documentary yeah you know and

2671
02:06:06,150 --> 02:06:04,900
what's interesting and I'm glad that you

2672
02:06:08,220 --> 02:06:06,160
bring that up because here we have

2673
02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:08,230
Jeremy who

2674
02:06:15,900 --> 02:06:11,650
is finishing up one of his documentaries

2675
02:06:19,500 --> 02:06:15,910
now and Jeremy has a way and I know that

2676
02:06:21,350 --> 02:06:19,510
I've said this a lot about Jeremy but

2677
02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:21,360
I've also said it to him to his face

2678
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:24,970
he's got a way of putting this stuff

2679
02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:28,450
together from another perspective and I

2680
02:06:34,830 --> 02:06:32,130
do not and I'm serious I do not know how

2681
02:06:40,140 --> 02:06:34,840
Jeremy is able to get this information

2682
02:06:42,180 --> 02:06:40,150
and Jeremy what's your secret man oh man

2683
02:06:45,080 --> 02:06:42,190
it's definitely not my looks I'm not

2684
02:06:47,580 --> 02:06:45,090
sure I think persistence Jenny you know

2685
02:06:49,380 --> 02:06:47,590
you know working on all of these films

2686
02:06:51,800 --> 02:06:49,390
it's about relationships developing

2687
02:06:55,110 --> 02:06:51,810
relationships and having a great mentor

2688
02:06:57,030 --> 02:06:55,120
you know essentially just getting and

2689
02:06:59,100 --> 02:06:57,040
earning the trust of people but then

2690
02:07:00,750 --> 02:06:59,110
keeping that trust and the part of

2691
02:07:03,660 --> 02:07:00,760
telling secrets is you have to keep them

2692
02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:03,670
sometimes and that can be a weight but

2693
02:07:07,860 --> 02:07:05,890
with the filmmaking it's just turning

2694
02:07:09,750 --> 02:07:07,870
the camera and making sure the person

2695
02:07:11,670 --> 02:07:09,760
doesn't even think about the camera

2696
02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:11,680
anymore that's how I get the interviews

2697
02:07:15,690 --> 02:07:13,570
well in the other part is you make it

2698
02:07:18,840 --> 02:07:15,700
look good too you know that's that's

2699
02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:18,850
half of anything especially with the

2700
02:07:25,020 --> 02:07:21,490
documentary that are if you are able to

2701
02:07:28,320 --> 02:07:25,030
get the aesthetic as long as well as the

2702
02:07:30,030 --> 02:07:28,330
content if you get that then you have

2703
02:07:33,180 --> 02:07:30,040
both and you've always been able to

2704
02:07:35,550 --> 02:07:33,190
achieve that Jeremy it's a it's tough to

2705
02:07:36,990 --> 02:07:35,560
do and you you're very nonchalant about

2706
02:07:40,020 --> 02:07:37,000
it you're like well you know whatever I

2707
02:07:42,750 --> 02:07:40,030
just I like what I'm shooting but it is

2708
02:07:44,250 --> 02:07:42,760
it's always an amazing thing to look at

2709
02:07:45,510 --> 02:07:44,260
when you put these things together what

2710
02:07:47,220 --> 02:07:45,520
are you going to be you're going to be

2711
02:07:48,270 --> 02:07:47,230
showing anything at contacting the

2712
02:07:51,390 --> 02:07:48,280
desert what are you going to be talking

2713
02:07:53,580 --> 02:07:51,400
about this weekend oh yeah I'm going to

2714
02:07:56,580 --> 02:07:53,590
be showing a lot of never-before-seen

2715
02:07:59,130 --> 02:07:56,590
footage of my work but also some cases

2716
02:08:01,830 --> 02:07:59,140
and things have been working on it'll be

2717
02:08:04,860 --> 02:08:01,840
a very very interesting audio-visual

2718
02:08:07,470 --> 02:08:04,870
presentation very heavy on the film

2719
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:07,480
footage I do have a film that's going to

2720
02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:09,250
be released I'll be announcing that it

2721
02:08:18,450 --> 02:08:16,570
costs Oh Jeremy we lost you see this is

2722
02:08:20,490 --> 02:08:18,460
the thing and for everybody out there

2723
02:08:21,419 --> 02:08:20,500
while I'm waiting for Jeremy to come

2724
02:08:24,750 --> 02:08:21,429
back he's in the

2725
02:08:30,679 --> 02:08:24,760
of the desert right now Jeremy are you

2726
02:08:33,719 --> 02:08:30,689
there ah we lost Jeremy unbelievable

2727
02:08:36,149 --> 02:08:33,729
yeah Casper I'm still here all right

2728
02:08:39,299 --> 02:08:36,159
Jeremy you peeking near me Jeremy just

2729
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:39,309
uh call back or I'll I'll hit you back

2730
02:08:43,979 --> 02:08:41,530
what a drag see that's the thing he is

2731
02:08:46,620 --> 02:08:43,989
literally I want to say something real

2732
02:08:48,209 --> 02:08:46,630
quick is that you know I you know you

2733
02:08:50,219 --> 02:08:48,219
know the thing is the UFO community now

2734
02:08:52,799 --> 02:08:50,229
this documentary is so well done for

2735
02:08:53,879 --> 02:08:52,809
unacknowledged that you know there's

2736
02:08:55,979 --> 02:08:53,889
that so you can lead a horse to water

2737
02:08:57,569 --> 02:08:55,989
but you can't make a drink right and you

2738
02:08:59,040 --> 02:08:57,579
know I tell a lot of people bump into

2739
02:09:01,799 --> 02:08:59,050
ain't gotta watch it's gotta watch this

2740
02:09:04,709 --> 02:09:01,809
and you know you can people blow you up

2741
02:09:06,929 --> 02:09:04,719
if they do fine no don't get discouraged

2742
02:09:08,520 --> 02:09:06,939
keep going and it's like tonight sat

2743
02:09:10,709 --> 02:09:08,530
down pop the little guys for quite a

2744
02:09:12,509 --> 02:09:10,719
while and they were all into it and

2745
02:09:13,979 --> 02:09:12,519
they're making sure things are fun

2746
02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:13,989
pretty sure they're going to like it so

2747
02:09:17,759 --> 02:09:16,090
you know it don't get discouraged when

2748
02:09:20,250 --> 02:09:17,769
you recommend or somebody in the kind of

2749
02:09:22,080 --> 02:09:20,260
lawyer you wanna you know pick up keep

2750
02:09:24,359 --> 02:09:22,090
moving on you know until you find people

2751
02:09:27,449 --> 02:09:24,369
that will listen and and this

2752
02:09:29,250 --> 02:09:27,459
documentary is done so well that you

2753
02:09:31,020 --> 02:09:29,260
know I you know you don't have to agree

2754
02:09:34,350 --> 02:09:31,030
with everything that's in there but the

2755
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:34,360
basics we do and it's just fabulous and

2756
02:09:37,589 --> 02:09:36,010
I think it's really well done and I just

2757
02:09:39,719 --> 02:09:37,599
wanted to make sure that you know

2758
02:09:42,120 --> 02:09:39,729
everybody takes time to watch it you

2759
02:09:43,949 --> 02:09:42,130
know I enjoy and end up in to help you

2760
02:09:45,929 --> 02:09:43,959
know push it out with your friends to

2761
02:09:48,209 --> 02:09:45,939
watch and things and family you know for

2762
02:09:53,219 --> 02:09:48,219
one of the one of the most interesting

2763
02:09:57,989 --> 02:09:53,229
things about the film is the first five

2764
02:10:00,810 --> 02:09:57,999
minutes right and the tone that is said

2765
02:10:02,129 --> 02:10:00,820
that first five minutes now if you

2766
02:10:03,779 --> 02:10:02,139
haven't seen the film I'm not going to

2767
02:10:05,839 --> 02:10:03,789
give it away because the first five

2768
02:10:09,989 --> 02:10:05,849
minutes maybe 10 minutes of the film

2769
02:10:13,799 --> 02:10:09,999
really really gets a message across one

2770
02:10:15,359 --> 02:10:13,809
that you do not expect it is it is not

2771
02:10:18,899 --> 02:10:15,369
what you expect and that is the tone of

2772
02:10:20,729 --> 02:10:18,909
the film and then it's then it takes off

2773
02:10:22,290 --> 02:10:20,739
but you don't expect that first five 10

2774
02:10:23,969 --> 02:10:22,300
minutes and the way that the music is

2775
02:10:25,949 --> 02:10:23,979
done I'm not going to give any of it

2776
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:25,959
away you have to check it out and I do

2777
02:10:30,179 --> 02:10:28,090
want your written yeah it's well written

2778
02:10:31,620 --> 02:10:30,189
I want people to come up to me in a

2779
02:10:33,500 --> 02:10:31,630
couple of months or a month or whatever

2780
02:10:36,290 --> 02:10:33,510
call into the show and go

2781
02:10:39,049 --> 02:10:36,300
dude you're absolutely right that first

2782
02:10:42,799 --> 02:10:39,059
five minutes of the film freaked me out

2783
02:10:44,990 --> 02:10:42,809
in it and it was emotional and that

2784
02:10:47,299 --> 02:10:45,000
really really sets the tone for the rest

2785
02:10:49,790 --> 02:10:47,309
of the film so just take note of that

2786
02:10:50,870 --> 02:10:49,800
but it's be ready to go at the beginning

2787
02:10:52,910 --> 02:10:50,880
of the film

2788
02:10:54,470 --> 02:10:52,920
make sure your popcorn is there you got

2789
02:10:56,779 --> 02:10:54,480
your drinks that you're not going to get

2790
02:10:58,609 --> 02:10:56,789
up and go and goof around so alright

2791
02:11:01,189 --> 02:10:58,619
Casper oh I think we got Jeremy back let

2792
02:11:02,629 --> 02:11:01,199
me see if we got them Jeremy I know

2793
02:11:06,080 --> 02:11:02,639
you're in the middle of the desert man

2794
02:11:09,169 --> 02:11:06,090
is that what's going on yeah man I lived

2795
02:11:11,629 --> 02:11:09,179
extremely remotely off-grid and it is

2796
02:11:13,790 --> 02:11:11,639
totally totally unexpected all the time

2797
02:11:16,430 --> 02:11:13,800
out here when you can be communicating

2798
02:11:19,310 --> 02:11:16,440
with the outside world so tomorrow night

2799
02:11:21,740 --> 02:11:19,320
we arrive and we're going to be down at

2800
02:11:25,160 --> 02:11:21,750
your your hangout so Joshua Tree saloon

2801
02:11:27,799 --> 02:11:25,170
tomorrow night that's awesome yeah you

2802
02:11:29,779 --> 02:11:27,809
know my theory on why it's so bizarre

2803
02:11:32,060 --> 02:11:29,789
out here in Joshua Tree and specifically

2804
02:11:33,379 --> 02:11:32,070
pioneer town where I live which is the

2805
02:11:35,899 --> 02:11:33,389
home of Pappy and Harriet's

2806
02:11:37,669 --> 02:11:35,909
right an amazing place right is you know

2807
02:11:39,500 --> 02:11:37,679
I think it's the fourth dimension man

2808
02:11:41,779 --> 02:11:39,510
there's a firmament that's perforated

2809
02:11:44,330 --> 02:11:41,789
out here it's just wild out here do you

2810
02:11:46,939 --> 02:11:44,340
see something you know we just had

2811
02:11:49,549 --> 02:11:46,949
George Noory on a little bit ago George

2812
02:11:51,919 --> 02:11:49,559
was telling us that last year at contact

2813
02:11:53,270 --> 02:11:51,929
he had like eight Dasia booths in one

2814
02:11:56,600 --> 02:11:53,280
day all right

2815
02:12:00,140 --> 02:11:56,610
he said was just trippin about what is

2816
02:12:04,189 --> 02:12:00,150
what is it with Joshua tree man and pine

2817
02:12:06,350 --> 02:12:04,199
white ocean yeah this area Jimmy I mean

2818
02:12:08,120 --> 02:12:06,360
look I've been studying and researching

2819
02:12:10,549 --> 02:12:08,130
stuff and filming it for a long time it

2820
02:12:12,649 --> 02:12:10,559
is really spectacular it is unique it

2821
02:12:15,259 --> 02:12:12,659
has a rich Native American history in

2822
02:12:17,660 --> 02:12:15,269
this area and additionally there's a

2823
02:12:19,549 --> 02:12:17,670
mythology that's never left here it

2824
02:12:22,009 --> 02:12:19,559
might just be that there's euro light

2825
02:12:24,560 --> 02:12:22,019
pollution and you have a 360 degree

2826
02:12:26,810 --> 02:12:24,570
panoramic of the cosmos that could be

2827
02:12:28,569 --> 02:12:26,820
part of it right people just looking up

2828
02:12:31,609 --> 02:12:28,579
right but there is a strangeness

2829
02:12:34,149 --> 02:12:31,619
quotient out here it truly is the fourth

2830
02:12:39,859 --> 02:12:36,529
Casper was just talking about

2831
02:12:43,009 --> 02:12:39,869
unacknowledged and that you know he just

2832
02:12:44,959 --> 02:12:43,019
washed it with some friends and you and

2833
02:12:46,480 --> 02:12:44,969
I were at the premiere together a couple

2834
02:12:48,490 --> 02:12:46,490
of weeks ago here in Lausanne

2835
02:12:50,680 --> 02:12:48,500
Angeles and it was great to see Ruben

2836
02:12:55,510 --> 02:12:50,690
there too as well Ruben Langdon there

2837
02:12:57,790 --> 02:12:55,520
with you your partner how was it for you

2838
02:12:59,560 --> 02:12:57,800
I was just talking about this with

2839
02:13:01,600 --> 02:12:59,570
Caspar Jeremy

2840
02:13:04,600 --> 02:13:01,610
you're a filmmaker you're a director and

2841
02:13:06,820 --> 02:13:04,610
and you know Michael Mendoza and and you

2842
02:13:09,880 --> 02:13:06,830
don't Steven for a year so putting all

2843
02:13:12,040 --> 02:13:09,890
that part of it off to the left that

2844
02:13:14,140 --> 02:13:12,050
first five to ten minutes of the film

2845
02:13:15,940 --> 02:13:14,150
not giving it away don't touch that

2846
02:13:19,690 --> 02:13:15,950
which talk about what the soundtrack was

2847
02:13:21,220 --> 02:13:19,700
or the visuals but how powerful was that

2848
02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:21,230
for you as a director that was pretty

2849
02:13:26,980 --> 02:13:24,530
strong wasn't it you know I might become

2850
02:13:29,170 --> 02:13:26,990
very unpopular you know here tonight but

2851
02:13:32,500 --> 02:13:29,180
you know the essential thing for me is

2852
02:13:34,540 --> 02:13:32,510
that what I like to look at with the UFO

2853
02:13:36,220 --> 02:13:34,550
phenomenon and then also you know

2854
02:13:37,630 --> 02:13:36,230
putting films doubt about that well

2855
02:13:39,400 --> 02:13:37,640
first of all there's a great

2856
02:13:41,140 --> 02:13:39,410
distribution company behind that film

2857
02:13:43,540 --> 02:13:41,150
it's called The Orchard we're hearing

2858
02:13:46,030 --> 02:13:43,550
more for me about that soon they're

2859
02:13:49,930 --> 02:13:46,040
doing really great work in this space

2860
02:13:51,880 --> 02:13:49,940
and in this field now the film itself is

2861
02:13:55,120 --> 02:13:51,890
similar to a lot of films that I see in

2862
02:13:58,810 --> 02:13:55,130
the UFO world where 90% of it is stock

2863
02:14:00,730 --> 02:13:58,820
footage right so my my goal is to get

2864
02:14:02,890 --> 02:14:00,740
you know regional content original

2865
02:14:06,130 --> 02:14:02,900
interviews and try to use as little of

2866
02:14:08,080 --> 02:14:06,140
that as possible there is power in the

2867
02:14:10,480 --> 02:14:08,090
message and you have to separate the

2868
02:14:13,060 --> 02:14:10,490
message from the messenger that's the

2869
02:14:15,250 --> 02:14:13,070
problem in the UFO field is that when

2870
02:14:18,070 --> 02:14:15,260
you start going down a path when you

2871
02:14:19,540 --> 02:14:18,080
start drinking your own kool-aid so you

2872
02:14:22,180 --> 02:14:19,550
know I'll stick a little bit of my own

2873
02:14:26,340 --> 02:14:22,190
but I really try to separate the content

2874
02:14:29,140 --> 02:14:26,350
from my own persona so that movie is

2875
02:14:31,750 --> 02:14:29,150
good because it's going to allow people

2876
02:14:34,300 --> 02:14:31,760
across the world when it's distributed

2877
02:14:37,420 --> 02:14:34,310
through the orchard to get a UFO s101

2878
02:14:38,520 --> 02:14:37,430
and it will feed them a basic premise no

2879
02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:38,530
doubt again

2880
02:14:44,470 --> 02:14:41,450
yeah the art of filmmaking you know for

2881
02:14:46,960 --> 02:14:44,480
me is to come from the side to come from

2882
02:14:49,780 --> 02:14:46,970
the underneath like an uppercut it's to

2883
02:14:52,120 --> 02:14:49,790
sneak attack a little bit rather than be

2884
02:14:54,340 --> 02:14:52,130
right on the nose and the reason for

2885
02:14:56,320 --> 02:14:54,350
that is that people didn't need to start

2886
02:14:58,380 --> 02:14:56,330
asking questions and when they ask

2887
02:15:00,120 --> 02:14:58,390
questions and they come to their own

2888
02:15:02,939 --> 02:15:00,130
conclusions it

2889
02:15:04,890 --> 02:15:02,949
more powerful vehicle for understanding

2890
02:15:07,100 --> 02:15:04,900
the world around us so that's kind of

2891
02:15:10,740 --> 02:15:07,110
more my technique in my take on it all

2892
02:15:13,979 --> 02:15:10,750
but hey it's great to see UFOs coming up

2893
02:15:16,770 --> 02:15:13,989
in popular culture and people having

2894
02:15:19,169 --> 02:15:16,780
this discussion on another level another

2895
02:15:21,899 --> 02:15:19,179
framework that has now been created for

2896
02:15:23,939 --> 02:15:21,909
us is a very positive thing because it's

2897
02:15:30,660 --> 02:15:23,949
an issue it's a national security issue

2898
02:15:33,629 --> 02:15:30,670
at it's a shaming issue one of your all

2899
02:15:35,550 --> 02:15:33,639
of your stuff is really cool and and it

2900
02:15:38,129 --> 02:15:35,560
has a different perspective on it you're

2901
02:15:39,930 --> 02:15:38,139
absolutely right it is it's a it's an

2902
02:15:42,810 --> 02:15:39,940
uppercut as somebody is stepping to the

2903
02:15:45,300 --> 02:15:42,820
left right that's what it is no doubt

2904
02:15:48,390 --> 02:15:45,310
yeah but one of the things that you did

2905
02:15:52,140 --> 02:15:48,400
that I enjoyed the most has nothing to

2906
02:15:56,040 --> 02:15:52,150
do essentially with any of this and that

2907
02:16:01,140 --> 02:15:56,050
is your your your montage of the Las

2908
02:16:04,189 --> 02:16:01,150
Vegas Strip the hello good dude it is I

2909
02:16:08,910 --> 02:16:04,199
mean talk about getting sucked in and

2910
02:16:12,899 --> 02:16:08,920
powerful right that now when you told me

2911
02:16:14,820 --> 02:16:12,909
I want you to share again with me you

2912
02:16:16,350 --> 02:16:14,830
said that that was one of the first

2913
02:16:17,820 --> 02:16:16,360
things that you had ever done and you

2914
02:16:20,399 --> 02:16:17,830
didn't even know what you were doing and

2915
02:16:22,560 --> 02:16:20,409
you just kind of that that whole thing

2916
02:16:26,430 --> 02:16:22,570
just kind of happened is that is that

2917
02:16:29,430 --> 02:16:26,440
right absolutely I went to go film with

2918
02:16:31,379 --> 02:16:29,440
the Godfather of conspiracy John Lear

2919
02:16:32,910 --> 02:16:31,389
and he wouldn't let me turn the camera

2920
02:16:34,560 --> 02:16:32,920
on it took me three years for him to

2921
02:16:36,629 --> 02:16:34,570
answer my phone call and then I sat

2922
02:16:37,860 --> 02:16:36,639
there for about a week he just stared at

2923
02:16:39,750 --> 02:16:37,870
me through the barrel of a cigar

2924
02:16:41,790 --> 02:16:39,760
wouldn't let me film him I was kind of

2925
02:16:43,440 --> 02:16:41,800
frustrated got this new camera had never

2926
02:16:46,320 --> 02:16:43,450
filmed anything in my life figured I

2927
02:16:47,490 --> 02:16:46,330
pointed at John wasn't able to so just

2928
02:16:49,919 --> 02:16:47,500
ended up walking down the Las Vegas

2929
02:16:52,370 --> 02:16:49,929
Strip and then people would literally

2930
02:16:55,259 --> 02:16:52,380
pop out and I realized that night

2931
02:16:57,450 --> 02:16:55,269
walking down the strip that the camera

2932
02:16:59,459 --> 02:16:57,460
was kind of my passport into the

2933
02:17:02,100 --> 02:16:59,469
intimate lives and thoughts and belief

2934
02:17:04,919 --> 02:17:02,110
systems of the people in front of it so

2935
02:17:08,790 --> 02:17:04,929
for me it was a very seminal moment and

2936
02:17:10,740 --> 02:17:08,800
it's very cool that you appreciated that

2937
02:17:13,230 --> 02:17:10,750
that was literally my first film another

2938
02:17:14,600 --> 02:17:13,240
one its new Jimmy that I don't know

2939
02:17:16,770 --> 02:17:14,610
you looked at because it doesn't

2940
02:17:18,960 --> 02:17:16,780
necessarily have stood UFOs but if you

2941
02:17:21,300 --> 02:17:18,970
go to my website it's called indelible

2942
02:17:25,880 --> 02:17:21,310
it's about Mark Mahoney and the Shamrock

2943
02:17:29,430 --> 02:17:25,890
social club which is a tattoo parlor oh

2944
02:17:34,260 --> 02:17:29,440
oh we all function really mysterious

2945
02:17:36,780 --> 02:17:34,270
happy yeah all right I'm going to check

2946
02:17:39,390 --> 02:17:36,790
that out after the show the Shamrock

2947
02:17:42,600 --> 02:17:39,400
shows are you really so how much time

2948
02:17:45,270 --> 02:17:42,610
did you spend there over a year about a

2949
02:17:47,970 --> 02:17:45,280
year and a half going multiple times a

2950
02:17:49,350 --> 02:17:47,980
week he let me in he doesn't let people

2951
02:17:52,320 --> 02:17:49,360
into that shop I've known him since I

2952
02:17:54,750 --> 02:17:52,330
was a young kid and I was able to

2953
02:17:57,750 --> 02:17:54,760
document hundreds of tattoo appointments

2954
02:17:59,520 --> 02:17:57,760
which then opened up to things like

2955
02:18:01,290 --> 02:17:59,530
Mickey Rourke trying to stab me in the

2956
02:18:04,260 --> 02:18:01,300
ribs with a stiletto while telling me

2957
02:18:08,820 --> 02:18:04,270
about his UFO experiences every case

2958
02:18:12,810 --> 02:18:08,830
every single tattoo session hat oh man

2959
02:18:16,140 --> 02:18:12,820
we lost Jeremy again ah ha ha ha that's

2960
02:18:20,540 --> 02:18:16,150
a good story through man make your or

2961
02:18:23,460 --> 02:18:20,550
stab me with a stiletto click yeah

2962
02:18:27,270 --> 02:18:23,470
Jeremy if you get here as my friend I

2963
02:18:30,000 --> 02:18:27,280
will see you very soon well tomorrow

2964
02:18:32,100 --> 02:18:30,010
night and we'll see you tomorrow a

2965
02:18:34,530 --> 02:18:32,110
contact in the desert everybody go over

2966
02:18:36,410 --> 02:18:34,540
to contact in the desert and you can

2967
02:18:39,120 --> 02:18:36,420
check out the schedule and you'll see

2968
02:18:42,780 --> 02:18:39,130
when Jeremy is speaking one of the cool

2969
02:18:46,830 --> 02:18:42,790
things is about Jeremy this is no joke I

2970
02:18:50,850 --> 02:18:46,840
mean I am not exaggerating here he has a

2971
02:18:53,880 --> 02:18:50,860
way of making things look great

2972
02:18:58,260 --> 02:18:53,890
he's got this touch man he's got this

2973
02:19:02,160 --> 02:18:58,270
thing I study film Casper I study film

2974
02:19:05,100 --> 02:19:02,170
Rita and I have done nothing but break

2975
02:19:06,330 --> 02:19:05,110
down cinema every single day that we've

2976
02:19:10,830 --> 02:19:06,340
been together for the last 20 years

2977
02:19:14,430 --> 02:19:10,840
that's always we break down cinema I you

2978
02:19:18,090 --> 02:19:14,440
know from from the script to okay okay

2979
02:19:20,040 --> 02:19:18,100
Rebecca but all right Jeremy say good

2980
02:19:23,880 --> 02:19:20,050
night to everybody what days are you

2981
02:19:26,160 --> 02:19:23,890
speaking at contact okay I think Jimmy

2982
02:19:26,950 --> 02:19:26,170
so it'll be Sunday at 11:00 a.m. it's

2983
02:19:28,959 --> 02:19:26,960
called UFO

2984
02:19:30,849 --> 02:19:28,969
the Clockwork Orange and I'll be talking

2985
02:19:32,320 --> 02:19:30,859
show a lot of my footage making a few

2986
02:19:34,360 --> 02:19:32,330
big announcements I think people are

2987
02:19:35,740 --> 02:19:34,370
getting really interested in and I'll be

2988
02:19:38,080 --> 02:19:35,750
looking specifically at kind of the

2989
02:19:40,509 --> 02:19:38,090
mechanistic or robotic characteristics

2990
02:19:42,400 --> 02:19:40,519
of the phenomenon so the idea that

2991
02:19:45,160 --> 02:19:42,410
there's an interactive artificial

2992
02:19:48,849 --> 02:19:45,170
intelligence manipulating the desires of

2993
02:19:52,450 --> 02:19:48,859
humanity there you go and are you doing

2994
02:19:54,219 --> 02:19:52,460
any panels I will be yeah I'm on one

2995
02:19:56,050 --> 02:19:54,229
panel those things are fun and you know

2996
02:19:58,269 --> 02:19:56,060
you get a couple quick questions and

2997
02:20:00,790 --> 02:19:58,279
that's it but I will be doing some panel

2998
02:20:02,800 --> 02:20:00,800
in one of the days okay very good men so

2999
02:20:04,929 --> 02:20:02,810
if you can make it by the saloon

3000
02:20:06,420 --> 02:20:04,939
tomorrow night we'll see you but we'll

3001
02:20:08,740 --> 02:20:06,430
talk to you about some private things

3002
02:20:11,110 --> 02:20:08,750
once we're there we'll get you over to

3003
02:20:12,969 --> 02:20:11,120
the fader compound but I know that

3004
02:20:14,979 --> 02:20:12,979
you're going to be you know you can have

3005
02:20:17,019 --> 02:20:14,989
a hundred maniacs up at your house and

3006
02:20:20,380 --> 02:20:17,029
you have to babysit up there too as well

3007
02:20:22,719 --> 02:20:20,390
irenna I yeah and see that going very

3008
02:20:24,639 --> 02:20:22,729
important and very importantly just so

3009
02:20:27,849 --> 02:20:24,649
people know though you're going to have

3010
02:20:29,679 --> 02:20:27,859
him on at some point Jacques Vallee will

3011
02:20:31,870 --> 02:20:29,689
be speaking at contact in the desert

3012
02:20:34,929 --> 02:20:31,880
that is a must see I will be doing the

3013
02:20:37,240 --> 02:20:34,939
introduction for Jacques Vallee he is a

3014
02:20:39,610 --> 02:20:37,250
very important colleague and researcher

3015
02:20:42,250 --> 02:20:39,620
in this field of the unknown he's the

3016
02:20:44,800 --> 02:20:42,260
kind of guy that really talks you can't

3017
02:20:47,760 --> 02:20:44,810
miss him no you can't you know you know

3018
02:20:51,550 --> 02:20:47,770
Jeremy he's an alien you know that right

3019
02:20:54,729 --> 02:20:51,560
there's rumors in theory that I have to

3020
02:20:58,120 --> 02:20:54,739
get it he I was a Clyde Lewis was just

3021
02:21:00,599 --> 02:20:58,130
odd and the one thing about Jacque and

3022
02:21:04,030 --> 02:21:00,609
we were just talking about this his eyes

3023
02:21:06,519 --> 02:21:04,040
have intelligence right there is there's

3024
02:21:10,150 --> 02:21:06,529
a sparkle and there is something going

3025
02:21:13,030 --> 02:21:10,160
on there that is a special beyond

3026
02:21:15,250 --> 02:21:13,040
anything and and on planet Earth the

3027
02:21:16,929 --> 02:21:15,260
waited not yet the weight of not being

3028
02:21:19,030 --> 02:21:16,939
able to say what you know Jamie yet

3029
02:21:21,910 --> 02:21:19,040
that's what I'm talking about you know

3030
02:21:24,070 --> 02:21:21,920
and he has forgotten more than you know

3031
02:21:25,570 --> 02:21:24,080
Jeremy right and think about that and

3032
02:21:28,059 --> 02:21:25,580
that's just the way that it is that's

3033
02:21:30,130 --> 02:21:28,069
how important jock valet is so I look

3034
02:21:33,610 --> 02:21:30,140
forward to it for that key event as

3035
02:21:36,130 --> 02:21:33,620
always it's Jeremy kohrville the man

3036
02:21:37,750 --> 02:21:36,140
with four name's Jeremy we'll see you in

3037
02:21:40,360 --> 02:21:37,760
a couple of days that out of contact

3038
02:21:42,370 --> 02:21:40,370
thank you bye bye my frog

3039
02:21:45,700 --> 02:21:42,380
cocky see you thank you you got it

3040
02:21:50,890 --> 02:21:45,710
Jeremy lock your Korbel Thank You Jeremy

3041
02:21:53,530 --> 02:21:50,900
and man I you know that it's it's such a

3042
02:21:55,570 --> 02:21:53,540
big event Casper

3043
02:22:01,120 --> 02:21:55,580
I don't are you making it out this year

3044
02:22:04,360 --> 02:22:01,130
before I asked no no I uh I was try to

3045
02:22:05,440 --> 02:22:04,370
make it next year if I can right um who

3046
02:22:07,030 --> 02:22:05,450
knows I might be living out in that

3047
02:22:09,660 --> 02:22:07,040
direction by that time it's difficult to

3048
02:22:13,720 --> 02:22:09,670
say well you never know but certainly

3049
02:22:16,540 --> 02:22:13,730
certainly next year we'll make it happen

3050
02:22:18,880 --> 02:22:16,550
okay there's no question about that

3051
02:22:22,360 --> 02:22:18,890
what what are you working on now what's

3052
02:22:25,180 --> 02:22:22,370
your next book this book titles

3053
02:22:31,360 --> 02:22:25,190
accidental destiny and what's it about

3054
02:22:34,450 --> 02:22:31,370
and then uh I don't want to say oh man

3055
02:22:36,551 --> 02:22:34,460
you can't do that Casper well I don't

3056
02:22:38,710 --> 02:22:36,561
want to give away concept you don't want

3057
02:22:39,880 --> 02:22:38,720
to go okay when's it when's the book

3058
02:22:43,480 --> 02:22:39,890
coming out fair enough fair enough

3059
02:22:45,610 --> 02:22:43,490
when's the book coming out okay um well

3060
02:22:49,330 --> 02:22:45,620
what I'm hoping to do is get out by

3061
02:22:51,011 --> 02:22:49,340
Halloween it possible my mom is 81 so we

3062
02:22:52,270 --> 02:22:51,021
had a lot of medical issues going on and

3063
02:22:55,750 --> 02:22:52,280
nursing all the stuff so I kind of got

3064
02:22:58,720 --> 02:22:55,760
sidetracked and I've been getting been

3065
02:23:01,540 --> 02:22:58,730
editing about 10 pages a night now so

3066
02:23:02,560 --> 02:23:01,550
and uh you know some of us come along

3067
02:23:05,910 --> 02:23:02,570
really well

3068
02:23:09,220 --> 02:23:05,920
the sequel to that is stellar destiny I

3069
02:23:12,460 --> 02:23:09,230
got about 40% of that written already

3070
02:23:14,860 --> 02:23:12,470
um and then I have another book that

3071
02:23:17,710 --> 02:23:14,870
popped up I'm going to do right after

3072
02:23:21,670 --> 02:23:17,720
that so I'm about three or four books

3073
02:23:24,341 --> 02:23:21,680
out in my head it's always fun yeah I'm

3074
02:23:27,640 --> 02:23:24,351
a good day how many pages do you crank

3075
02:23:30,670 --> 02:23:27,650
out on the phone the editing that takes

3076
02:23:33,580 --> 02:23:30,680
a long time when I was writing coming

3077
02:23:35,230 --> 02:23:33,590
from darkness I wrote it all the

3078
02:23:38,320 --> 02:23:35,240
original rough draft was by the horns

3079
02:23:41,170 --> 02:23:38,330
30,000 words and I did that about two

3080
02:23:43,301 --> 02:23:41,180
and a half months that was a rough draft

3081
02:23:46,690 --> 02:23:43,311
so when I'm sitting at a edit with a

3082
02:23:50,200 --> 02:23:46,700
blank screen in front of me arm I can

3083
02:23:54,130 --> 02:23:50,210
average anywhere from 20 to 60 70 words

3084
02:23:56,620 --> 02:23:54,140
a minute just my mind on the keyboard

3085
02:24:00,610 --> 02:23:56,630
screen in front of me mm-hmm no when I'm

3086
02:24:03,370 --> 02:24:00,620
doing free flow mistakes aside you just

3087
02:24:05,620 --> 02:24:03,380
keep right on going you know all I can

3088
02:24:07,719 --> 02:24:05,630
pump it all in three or three months um

3089
02:24:10,660 --> 02:24:07,729
the editing is what takes some time you

3090
02:24:13,360 --> 02:24:10,670
guys go back and do edit and you know my

3091
02:24:14,860 --> 02:24:13,370
grandma's kind of rough so I go back and

3092
02:24:17,469 --> 02:24:14,870
do edit and have it and edit and edit

3093
02:24:20,290 --> 02:24:17,479
and eventually I reach a point where you

3094
02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:20,300
just gotta let it go and mistakes so

3095
02:24:27,580 --> 02:24:23,210
those are there but you pause me as me

3096
02:24:29,380 --> 02:24:27,590
as what you can and you know so I'm

3097
02:24:31,210 --> 02:24:29,390
hoping by Halloween I can have this one

3098
02:24:33,189 --> 02:24:31,220
out right now I'm kind of looking for a

3099
02:24:36,880 --> 02:24:33,199
book color for the one I'm working on

3100
02:24:38,410 --> 02:24:36,890
now and all you know and I won't even

3101
02:24:40,750 --> 02:24:38,420
release a book cover to release the book

3102
02:24:43,030 --> 02:24:40,760
you know it's like if I can find the

3103
02:24:43,269 --> 02:24:43,040
right color all right all right all

3104
02:24:47,860 --> 02:24:43,279
right

3105
02:24:50,139 --> 02:24:47,870
do the same thing I did last time or put

3106
02:24:51,880 --> 02:24:50,149
two books out back to that you know

3107
02:24:53,410 --> 02:24:51,890
we're like no and boom like three months

3108
02:24:54,700 --> 02:24:53,420
between them right I think that's going

3109
02:24:56,679 --> 02:24:54,710
to happen with this one I'll have like

3110
02:24:58,630 --> 02:24:56,689
you know two books that are Kamala

3111
02:25:01,300 --> 02:24:58,640
through most of each other right right

3112
02:25:03,490 --> 02:25:01,310
so you don't even have a dry spots

3113
02:25:05,260 --> 02:25:03,500
better time to work on it well that's

3114
02:25:09,389 --> 02:25:05,270
that's always the thing you know if you

3115
02:25:14,320 --> 02:25:12,399
we're trying to work out know when you

3116
02:25:17,580 --> 02:25:14,330
hit it Earl Belle how do you come out of

3117
02:25:21,580 --> 02:25:17,590
that well I don't

3118
02:25:24,939 --> 02:25:21,590
Hey I think it's relaxing a little bit

3119
02:25:29,920 --> 02:25:24,949
um I have a cousin to Crohn's disease

3120
02:25:32,710 --> 02:25:29,930
and I came to knows what it is but the

3121
02:25:36,330 --> 02:25:32,720
medicine or given me was causing offer

3122
02:25:41,679 --> 02:25:36,340
itis mm-hmm so an understatement medical

3123
02:25:45,519 --> 02:25:41,689
and and I left LA 93 I kind of let that

3124
02:25:48,280 --> 02:25:45,529
all go and I got sick the other day and

3125
02:25:50,320 --> 02:25:48,290
is like so I've okay I get my little

3126
02:25:53,740 --> 02:25:50,330
medical than a bama pumped out like 20

3127
02:25:57,550 --> 02:25:53,750
pages with edit like okay I just need to

3128
02:25:58,990 --> 02:25:57,560
relax a little bit you know um t-there

3129
02:26:02,019 --> 02:25:59,000
yeah I'm listening

3130
02:26:04,149 --> 02:26:02,029
oh okay yeah yeah so I did a little

3131
02:26:06,639 --> 02:26:04,159
medical I was just like relaxed enough

3132
02:26:07,630 --> 02:26:06,649
that I could like work a lot and I think

3133
02:26:08,769 --> 02:26:07,640
it's

3134
02:26:10,750 --> 02:26:08,779
part of it is being in the creative

3135
02:26:12,219 --> 02:26:10,760
environment like today for example

3136
02:26:14,649 --> 02:26:12,229
talking to Bleeker

3137
02:26:17,410 --> 02:26:14,659
there's also creative people and like

3138
02:26:19,780 --> 02:26:17,420
you and Jeremy and other people are

3139
02:26:21,700 --> 02:26:19,790
creative people and you can pull from

3140
02:26:24,700 --> 02:26:21,710
each other and encourage each other and

3141
02:26:26,410 --> 02:26:24,710
you get that feel of energy and in a

3142
02:26:29,620 --> 02:26:26,420
situation of anomaly like a farming

3143
02:26:32,559 --> 02:26:29,630
community alright so and my nephew is

3144
02:26:36,189 --> 02:26:32,569
reads my stuff but you know he's not

3145
02:26:38,439 --> 02:26:36,199
home a lot as he travels so you know I

3146
02:26:40,450 --> 02:26:38,449
don't have that creative input around me

3147
02:26:44,290 --> 02:26:40,460
that I can pull from you know for the

3148
02:26:46,510 --> 02:26:44,300
energy right all right yeah yeah yeah

3149
02:26:48,700 --> 02:26:46,520
Southern California is really good for

3150
02:26:51,580 --> 02:26:48,710
that or California in general there's so

3151
02:26:53,950 --> 02:26:51,590
many people that you can just hang out

3152
02:26:56,620 --> 02:26:53,960
with and just talk and you know what I

3153
02:26:58,990 --> 02:26:56,630
mean and that that kind of environment

3154
02:27:02,260 --> 02:26:59,000
is where we are here for for the

3155
02:27:03,910 --> 02:27:02,270
creative juices and to to promote that

3156
02:27:06,130 --> 02:27:03,920
you know to keep your mind moving

3157
02:27:10,689 --> 02:27:06,140
forward you know it's getting stagnant

3158
02:27:12,580 --> 02:27:10,699
out here is kind of difficult yeah yeah

3159
02:27:14,800 --> 02:27:12,590
yeah and I think that you know in the

3160
02:27:17,110 --> 02:27:14,810
situation and now I can get stagnant

3161
02:27:19,899 --> 02:27:17,120
real quick if I don't I'm not if I don't

3162
02:27:22,210 --> 02:27:19,909
pay attention for like getting out cuz I

3163
02:27:23,860 --> 02:27:22,220
never get out and do anything and going

3164
02:27:26,410 --> 02:27:23,870
out today for the first time like a year

3165
02:27:29,170 --> 02:27:26,420
and I have to go see a concert I mean it

3166
02:27:32,050 --> 02:27:29,180
was a small 100 people or so it was

3167
02:27:33,490 --> 02:27:32,060
still good funding yeah yeah I could get

3168
02:27:36,160 --> 02:27:33,500
around the energy and they were grateful

3169
02:27:37,599 --> 02:27:36,170
enough you know that you know they sat

3170
02:27:38,979 --> 02:27:37,609
down and talked me for a while and this

3171
02:27:41,710 --> 02:27:38,989
thing and I talked I did a half an hour

3172
02:27:43,269 --> 02:27:41,720
right and they're getting rid of UFOs

3173
02:27:45,580 --> 02:27:43,279
and aliens and all that kind of stuff so

3174
02:27:47,649 --> 02:27:45,590
that's that was cool too and I think

3175
02:27:49,750 --> 02:27:47,659
like you said at one time before the

3176
02:27:53,170 --> 02:27:49,760
generation is coming up now being that

3177
02:27:55,719 --> 02:27:53,180
age and in in teens is you know that

3178
02:27:57,580 --> 02:27:55,729
that's you know our strong point there

3179
02:27:59,710 --> 02:27:57,590
and if somebody doesn't listen

3180
02:28:02,229 --> 02:27:59,720
you know you come watch this documentary

3181
02:28:04,899 --> 02:28:02,239
or read this book or whatever move on to

3182
02:28:06,820 --> 02:28:04,909
somebody else eventually you know you

3183
02:28:10,090 --> 02:28:06,830
spread the word it's exactly right

3184
02:28:11,530 --> 02:28:10,100
Casper words of wisdom my friend and I

3185
02:28:13,330 --> 02:28:11,540
want to thank you for calling in tonight

3186
02:28:15,040 --> 02:28:13,340
man and hanging out

3187
02:28:16,840 --> 02:28:15,050
you're the best kid I'm sure going to

3188
02:28:17,939 --> 02:28:16,850
park a lot of a supermarket right now

3189
02:28:20,740 --> 02:28:17,949
actually

3190
02:28:21,341 --> 02:28:20,750
how does I talk those about tox-screen

3191
02:28:23,470 --> 02:28:21,351
wide

3192
02:28:25,421 --> 02:28:23,480
those are the colors and there you go

3193
02:28:28,180 --> 02:28:25,431
thank you so much Casper safe travels

3194
02:28:32,560 --> 02:28:28,190
home my friend alright but you got it

3195
02:28:34,511 --> 02:28:32,570
Caspar parts jeremy Lockyer Korbel and

3196
02:28:35,860 --> 02:28:34,521
fade to black i'm your host jimmy church

3197
02:28:36,850 --> 02:28:35,870
i'm going to take a quick break get more

3198
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of your phone calls

3199
02:28:50,710 --> 02:28:38,590
our next i'll be right back

3200
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3271
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all right welcome back fade to black

3272
02:33:03,360 --> 02:33:00,480
what a great night tonight thank you for

3273
02:33:04,890 --> 02:33:03,370
all the phone calls tonight but you know

3274
02:33:08,250 --> 02:33:04,900
we're heading out to contact in the

3275
02:33:09,750 --> 02:33:08,260
desert tomorrow and you know everybody

3276
02:33:11,430 --> 02:33:09,760
that called in tonight that is going to

3277
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be speaking there it's just going to be

3278
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a great event but the event cannot

3279
02:33:22,500 --> 02:33:18,280
happen without this young man right here

3280
02:33:25,650 --> 02:33:22,510
and the producer of contact of the

3281
02:33:28,800 --> 02:33:25,660
desert Paul Andrews Paul Andrews how are

3282
02:33:32,280 --> 02:33:28,810
you good Jimmy how about yourself I'm

3283
02:33:35,640 --> 02:33:32,290
here with Tim as well Tim Gunn my man

3284
02:33:37,380 --> 02:33:35,650
good evening Jimmy hello you Tim the

3285
02:33:39,770 --> 02:33:37,390
most professional man in show business

3286
02:33:42,720 --> 02:33:39,780
right there

3287
02:33:45,480 --> 02:33:42,730
now there's nobody in the consciousness

3288
02:33:49,610 --> 02:33:45,490
field Jimmy that Tim doesn't know you

3289
02:33:52,590 --> 02:33:49,620
know and it and he he is so polite and

3290
02:33:55,800 --> 02:33:52,600
part of it is his accent Paul you know

3291
02:33:59,100 --> 02:33:55,810
that right so he's got that I think but

3292
02:34:00,630 --> 02:33:59,110
what a professional Tim is and it's an

3293
02:34:04,140 --> 02:34:00,640
honor to have both of you on the show

3294
02:34:06,570 --> 02:34:04,150
but Paul I have to ask you here we go

3295
02:34:08,370 --> 02:34:06,580
it kicks off tomorrow kicks off

3296
02:34:11,250 --> 02:34:08,380
officially Friday but the events start

3297
02:34:14,970 --> 02:34:11,260
tomorrow for you how you doing man

3298
02:34:17,430 --> 02:34:14,980
how are you doing well I you know and

3299
02:34:19,860 --> 02:34:17,440
Jimmy it's always butterflies before the

3300
02:34:22,320 --> 02:34:19,870
event and but we have the whole team on

3301
02:34:24,930 --> 02:34:22,330
the ground here preparing for the show

3302
02:34:27,630 --> 02:34:24,940
we have near-perfect weather we've got

3303
02:34:31,410 --> 02:34:27,640
all our shade structures up we've got

3304
02:34:35,130 --> 02:34:31,420
our night vision area all set up you

3305
02:34:37,590 --> 02:34:35,140
know we're primed and ready and hoping

3306
02:34:40,110 --> 02:34:37,600
that this year is mm like last year

3307
02:34:42,890 --> 02:34:40,120
we'll have some live sightings which you

3308
02:34:46,140 --> 02:34:42,900
have been wonderful to chronicle and

3309
02:34:48,240 --> 02:34:46,150
we're expecting some more of those this

3310
02:34:51,000 --> 02:34:48,250
season I know you talked to Steven Greer

3311
02:34:53,190 --> 02:34:51,010
about that and I think the thing that

3312
02:34:56,790 --> 02:34:53,200
Tim and I want to communicate about this

3313
02:34:59,610 --> 02:34:56,800
event is that it's a participatory event

3314
02:35:02,610 --> 02:34:59,620
you know people come

3315
02:35:04,261 --> 02:35:02,620
and we we participated people don't just

3316
02:35:07,110 --> 02:35:04,271
sit around you know we're watching the

3317
02:35:09,420 --> 02:35:07,120
sky we're feeling the energy our feet

3318
02:35:11,130 --> 02:35:09,430
are touching the ground a lot of people

3319
02:35:13,460 --> 02:35:11,140
walk around without their shoes so they

3320
02:35:16,410 --> 02:35:13,470
can feel connected to the high-voltage

3321
02:35:19,380 --> 02:35:16,420
energy that is Joshua Tree

3322
02:35:24,030 --> 02:35:19,390
that is the 33 degree parallel giving it

3323
02:35:27,750 --> 02:35:24,040
100% and and that is an extraordinary

3324
02:35:30,301 --> 02:35:27,760
thought if you really those of us in the

3325
02:35:32,670 --> 02:35:30,311
paranormal or that you know the fringe

3326
02:35:35,820 --> 02:35:32,680
or the alt world we all get that right

3327
02:35:38,850 --> 02:35:35,830
but but for those that don't and you

3328
02:35:41,850 --> 02:35:38,860
look at the 33rd and and go around

3329
02:35:46,380 --> 02:35:41,860
planet Earth and look at the things that

3330
02:35:49,740 --> 02:35:46,390
are there right there it is way beyond

3331
02:35:52,051 --> 02:35:49,750
coincidence that's right and that's and

3332
02:35:53,761 --> 02:35:52,061
that's that's what you and adult degree

3333
02:35:57,000 --> 02:35:53,771
we're addressing lost rhodium because

3334
02:35:58,980 --> 02:35:57,010
because it is a trippy thing you know

3335
02:36:00,990 --> 02:35:58,990
I've had so many guests on the show not

3336
02:36:04,230 --> 02:36:01,000
only Grier but all of the great

3337
02:36:06,270 --> 02:36:04,240
researchers they go out to a spot on

3338
02:36:07,860 --> 02:36:06,280
planet Earth it's like pick a spot it

3339
02:36:09,690 --> 02:36:07,870
doesn't matter and they're out there

3340
02:36:12,540 --> 02:36:09,700
researching and the next thing they

3341
02:36:16,520 --> 02:36:12,550
realize is they're on the thirty-third

3342
02:36:19,801 --> 02:36:16,530
it's like it's like crazy no this is it

3343
02:36:22,170 --> 02:36:19,811
it's magical Jimi and somehow people

3344
02:36:24,690 --> 02:36:22,180
without even realizing it they're caught

3345
02:36:26,790 --> 02:36:24,700
up in the energy call it a vortex call

3346
02:36:30,511 --> 02:36:26,800
it what you will but somehow the energy

3347
02:36:32,580 --> 02:36:30,521
empowers people to to open up you know

3348
02:36:35,910 --> 02:36:32,590
and they have experiences because they

3349
02:36:39,000 --> 02:36:35,920
are open yeah and that that's a big part

3350
02:36:43,440 --> 02:36:39,010
of it and in et seems to have picked up

3351
02:36:46,770 --> 02:36:43,450
on it at some point to say well we know

3352
02:36:49,140 --> 02:36:46,780
Jim we believe that okay we believe

3353
02:36:52,710 --> 02:36:49,150
Victoria and I intend that we are in the

3354
02:36:56,250 --> 02:36:52,720
center of the most active ET vertex

3355
02:36:57,330 --> 02:36:56,260
sighting area in North America if not

3356
02:37:00,000 --> 02:36:57,340
the metal world

3357
02:37:02,640 --> 02:37:00,010
right right right not the world and it's

3358
02:37:06,120 --> 02:37:02,650
the reason that we hold the show here

3359
02:37:09,511 --> 02:37:06,130
and it is the reason that people since

3360
02:37:12,970 --> 02:37:09,521
the 1940s have been coming here for the

3361
02:37:16,180 --> 02:37:12,980
very first UFO conventions

3362
02:37:19,780 --> 02:37:16,190
in a very real way we're continuing a

3363
02:37:25,240 --> 02:37:19,790
tradition of sightings and participation

3364
02:37:27,730 --> 02:37:25,250
and interactive experiences with non

3365
02:37:30,551 --> 02:37:27,740
terrestrial beings that has been going

3366
02:37:33,100 --> 02:37:30,561
on for a long long time and we're just

3367
02:37:35,020 --> 02:37:33,110
the latest iteration of that and I

3368
02:37:36,820 --> 02:37:35,030
really celebrate the fact that you

3369
02:37:40,390 --> 02:37:36,830
recognize that Jimmy and that you've

3370
02:37:43,930 --> 02:37:40,400
been such a key part of allowing this

3371
02:37:45,761 --> 02:37:43,940
event to unfold we deeply appreciate it

3372
02:37:49,511 --> 02:37:45,771
Jimmy is an integral part of the event

3373
02:37:51,970 --> 02:37:49,521
now we have you know thank you for that

3374
02:37:55,120 --> 02:37:51,980
and and that's that's great that's

3375
02:37:56,080 --> 02:37:55,130
humbling and and and thank you but to be

3376
02:37:59,560 --> 02:37:56,090
honest with you

3377
02:38:02,381 --> 02:37:59,570
it is it's the people it is the audience

3378
02:38:05,671 --> 02:38:02,391
it's the fans that all come together and

3379
02:38:08,560 --> 02:38:05,681
and and the vibe that they create

3380
02:38:11,440 --> 02:38:08,570
spreads out and the event has gotten

3381
02:38:13,900 --> 02:38:11,450
bigger and bigger on its own well you

3382
02:38:16,330 --> 02:38:13,910
and Tim Victoria and crystal and the

3383
02:38:18,540 --> 02:38:16,340
crew and everybody that is involved if

3384
02:38:21,640 --> 02:38:18,550
we have a small piece and part of it

3385
02:38:23,950 --> 02:38:21,650
that's great but the bottom line for all

3386
02:38:26,530 --> 02:38:23,960
of this this Paul you don't have a gig

3387
02:38:29,770 --> 02:38:26,540
without the fans you know Tim doesn't

3388
02:38:31,570 --> 02:38:29,780
have I don't have a gig if it's not for

3389
02:38:34,060 --> 02:38:31,580
the fans and the people that get

3390
02:38:36,131 --> 02:38:34,070
together and they recognize the

3391
02:38:39,160 --> 02:38:36,141
community that that is being built

3392
02:38:42,220 --> 02:38:39,170
around us and that and that's that's the

3393
02:38:45,640 --> 02:38:42,230
bottom line for all of us isn't it you

3394
02:38:47,921 --> 02:38:45,650
know again it's also the you know the

3395
02:38:51,430 --> 02:38:47,931
sum of the parts to me you know the the

3396
02:38:53,860 --> 02:38:51,440
speakers that comprise the program it's

3397
02:38:57,070 --> 02:38:53,870
an exceptional program I mean it's the

3398
02:39:00,250 --> 02:38:57,080
best of the best and and it's the the

3399
02:39:03,540 --> 02:39:00,260
synergism of this program that draws the

3400
02:39:05,740 --> 02:39:03,550
people to it you know and well it's

3401
02:39:07,810 --> 02:39:05,750
we're likely to have a sellout crowd

3402
02:39:10,330 --> 02:39:07,820
again this year probably upwards of

3403
02:39:12,310 --> 02:39:10,340
3,000 people you know and they come from

3404
02:39:14,410 --> 02:39:12,320
all parts of the country I flew in to

3405
02:39:17,620 --> 02:39:14,420
Palm Springs here this afternoon

3406
02:39:19,810 --> 02:39:17,630
and on the plane with me and it was only

3407
02:39:22,720 --> 02:39:19,820
a small puddle jumper there were five

3408
02:39:24,519 --> 02:39:22,730
people along with myself on this puddle

3409
02:39:26,979 --> 02:39:24,529
jumper and they come from all

3410
02:39:29,559 --> 02:39:26,989
owners of the of North America oh I

3411
02:39:32,729 --> 02:39:29,569
think I can top that I think I can top

3412
02:39:36,760 --> 02:39:32,739
the Outer Banks and Florida and and

3413
02:39:39,039 --> 02:39:36,770
Atlanta and all points Jimmy it's

3414
02:39:43,000 --> 02:39:39,049
remarkable just to be a contact yeah

3415
02:39:45,849 --> 02:39:43,010
check this out Tim today today on my my

3416
02:39:50,559 --> 02:39:45,859
facebook thread got a picture from Hong

3417
02:39:52,960 --> 02:39:50,569
Kong from a friend at the gate right

3418
02:39:56,800 --> 02:39:52,970
there Los Angeles and he goes I'm on my

3419
02:40:01,359 --> 02:39:56,810
way to contact in the desert but you

3420
02:40:04,050 --> 02:40:01,369
know and and I just like wow yeah yeah

3421
02:40:06,399 --> 02:40:04,060
yeah yeah and if I see you tomorrow

3422
02:40:09,090 --> 02:40:06,409
Chuck who's flying out he's got a radio

3423
02:40:12,579 --> 02:40:09,100
show and TV show out there in Hong Kong

3424
02:40:14,859 --> 02:40:12,589
called mga 13 dealing with the

3425
02:40:16,809 --> 02:40:14,869
paranormal and ufology but I'll

3426
02:40:19,449 --> 02:40:16,819
introduce you to chuck tamari is a

3427
02:40:24,309 --> 02:40:19,459
really really really cool guy but now I

3428
02:40:28,179 --> 02:40:24,319
will just I wanted to ask you this it on

3429
02:40:31,149 --> 02:40:28,189
Tuesday right it's going to be behind us

3430
02:40:33,699 --> 02:40:31,159
and you start working on next year's

3431
02:40:36,250 --> 02:40:33,709
event on Tuesday well if not today but

3432
02:40:39,189 --> 02:40:36,260
but on Tuesday it's a day-to-day thing

3433
02:40:41,590 --> 02:40:39,199
for you to put the next year's event

3434
02:40:45,579 --> 02:40:41,600
together and make it bigger and better

3435
02:40:47,920 --> 02:40:45,589
more successful than this year that's

3436
02:40:50,710 --> 02:40:47,930
how this can happen Jimmy we started on

3437
02:40:54,279 --> 02:40:50,720
this one well fully 11 months ago right

3438
02:40:57,399 --> 02:40:54,289
and now it's what we just now arrived on

3439
02:40:59,170 --> 02:40:57,409
site it's about to happen but it would

3440
02:41:01,239 --> 02:40:59,180
not stop the production hasn't stopped

3441
02:41:04,479 --> 02:41:01,249
Jimmy since you guys left the site last

3442
02:41:07,300 --> 02:41:04,489
year I mean did what terms row geumhui

3443
02:41:10,710 --> 02:41:07,310
we work hard on us and we want people

3444
02:41:14,289 --> 02:41:10,720
who come to have a fun interactive

3445
02:41:16,449 --> 02:41:14,299
uplifting mind-opening mind-bending

3446
02:41:18,609 --> 02:41:16,459
experience and it's a wonderful

3447
02:41:19,029 --> 02:41:18,619
community of people who come to the

3448
02:41:22,260 --> 02:41:19,039
event

3449
02:41:25,000 --> 02:41:22,270
very friendly group we have good food

3450
02:41:27,010 --> 02:41:25,010
it's exciting you can feel themselves to

3451
02:41:29,260 --> 02:41:27,020
the extended family when they come here

3452
02:41:32,170 --> 02:41:29,270
it's remarkable you know there's the

3453
02:41:34,420 --> 02:41:32,180
energy again the synergism amongst the

3454
02:41:36,550 --> 02:41:34,430
attendees is remarkable it is you know

3455
02:41:37,841 --> 02:41:36,560
they feel they feel themselves to be

3456
02:41:40,480 --> 02:41:37,851
almost like a brother

3457
02:41:42,041 --> 02:41:40,490
the family at large when they come here

3458
02:41:43,841 --> 02:41:42,051
there are Jimmy there's a communion

3459
02:41:47,461 --> 02:41:43,851
there's not there's no question of that

3460
02:41:49,991 --> 02:41:47,471
you check your attitude at the door

3461
02:41:51,551 --> 02:41:50,001
right look your attitude at the door

3462
02:41:54,491 --> 02:41:51,561
well I'll tell you something Jimmy there

3463
02:41:56,470 --> 02:41:54,501
were over a hundred people some of them

3464
02:41:58,421 --> 02:41:56,480
were skeptics but when they looked up in

3465
02:42:01,301 --> 02:41:58,431
the sky and they saw those five craft

3466
02:42:03,761 --> 02:42:01,311
come down all that skepticism melted

3467
02:42:05,711 --> 02:42:03,771
away and a lot of the people wrote about

3468
02:42:08,350 --> 02:42:05,721
their experiences and they sent them to

3469
02:42:10,571 --> 02:42:08,360
us and we put them up on our website and

3470
02:42:12,220 --> 02:42:10,581
you know we're hoping we have the same

3471
02:42:14,531 --> 02:42:12,230
group of people coming to call those

3472
02:42:16,480 --> 02:42:14,541
craft in and you know when that happened

3473
02:42:18,850 --> 02:42:16,490
it happened on George always birthday

3474
02:42:21,100 --> 02:42:18,860
for each fall and I and many of us were

3475
02:42:22,871 --> 02:42:21,110
celebrating with George his birthday

3476
02:42:25,451 --> 02:42:22,881
others that were out there had this

3477
02:42:27,730 --> 02:42:25,461
wonderful sighting the funny thing about

3478
02:42:29,951 --> 02:42:27,740
that George was just on the show YouTube

3479
02:42:32,890 --> 02:42:29,961
just a few minutes ago and we were

3480
02:42:37,091 --> 02:42:32,900
talking and we were talking about that

3481
02:42:37,631 --> 02:42:37,101
now if you remember last year during the

3482
02:42:39,690 --> 02:42:37,641
party

3483
02:42:43,480 --> 02:42:39,700
Paul had gotten up and was thinking

3484
02:42:45,791 --> 02:42:43,490
everybody right and and we were it was

3485
02:42:47,890 --> 02:42:45,801
George's birthday party and and we were

3486
02:42:50,291 --> 02:42:47,900
doing our thing up and off the stage and

3487
02:42:52,511 --> 02:42:50,301
happy birthday happy birthday and then

3488
02:42:54,730 --> 02:42:52,521
the midway point this is how it went

3489
02:42:57,701 --> 02:42:54,740
down Paul I'll remind both you and Tim

3490
02:42:59,621 --> 02:42:57,711
about this at the midway point we had to

3491
02:43:03,761 --> 02:42:59,631
clear the tables out to get ready for

3492
02:43:07,600 --> 02:43:03,771
the band and dancing right so as yeah

3493
02:43:09,701 --> 02:43:07,610
and as that goes down Rita gets a text

3494
02:43:13,841 --> 02:43:09,711
that was at nine o'clock Rita gets this

3495
02:43:17,440 --> 02:43:13,851
text UFOs and UFOs over it Orion's

3496
02:43:19,480 --> 02:43:17,450
lookout and I turned and so read and I

3497
02:43:26,051 --> 02:43:19,490
was like oh do we blow out George's

3498
02:43:29,230 --> 02:43:26,061
birthday as we cut we cut and ran when

3499
02:43:30,520 --> 02:43:29,240
nobody was looking and George and I were

3500
02:43:34,631 --> 02:43:30,530
just talking about that a few minutes

3501
02:43:38,680 --> 02:43:34,641
ago but that's the magic of of Joshua

3502
02:43:41,951 --> 02:43:38,690
Tree you know it went down it really

3503
02:43:44,591 --> 02:43:41,961
went down it really went down it's pure

3504
02:43:47,350 --> 02:43:44,601
magic out here it's real it's

3505
02:43:50,201 --> 02:43:47,360
experiential the weather is going to be

3506
02:43:51,820 --> 02:43:50,211
beautiful and you know George of course

3507
02:43:53,530 --> 02:43:51,830
will be there we're excited about

3508
02:43:55,690 --> 02:43:53,540
that Jimmy were so honored that you're

3509
02:43:59,320 --> 02:43:55,700
coming we've got Claude Lewis coming

3510
02:44:01,090 --> 02:43:59,330
also another radio personality and you

3511
02:44:03,520 --> 02:44:01,100
know you guys are like the bedrock of

3512
02:44:06,070 --> 02:44:03,530
the show thank you so much for that and

3513
02:44:08,860 --> 02:44:06,080
now I know you guys need your rest

3514
02:44:11,500 --> 02:44:08,870
and thank you both for coming out and

3515
02:44:13,900 --> 02:44:11,510
taking the time and of course I'm going

3516
02:44:15,550 --> 02:44:13,910
to force you into coming on the show

3517
02:44:17,639 --> 02:44:15,560
Friday night to do drive by and say

3518
02:44:22,389 --> 02:44:17,649
hello to everybody but in the meantime

3519
02:44:23,650 --> 02:44:22,399
honored yeah yeah yeah absolutely so go

3520
02:44:27,340 --> 02:44:23,660
and say hi to everybody

3521
02:44:29,559 --> 02:44:27,350
yeah what's that it was fun doing it

3522
02:44:31,120 --> 02:44:29,569
with you lost man enough to do it that

3523
02:44:34,179 --> 02:44:31,130
was the highlight of the night are you

3524
02:44:37,360 --> 02:44:34,189
kidding me so anyway go say hi to

3525
02:44:38,620 --> 02:44:37,370
everybody and just let them know we'll

3526
02:44:40,870 --> 02:44:38,630
see you guys tomorrow afternoon

3527
02:44:42,460 --> 02:44:40,880
get some rest because you're going to

3528
02:44:43,690 --> 02:44:42,470
need it over the next four days all

3529
02:44:46,870 --> 02:44:43,700
right and we'll see you guys tomorrow

3530
02:44:49,540 --> 02:44:46,880
night and the skies are crystal clear

3531
02:44:51,550 --> 02:44:49,550
Jimmy it's beautiful out why are the

3532
02:44:54,340 --> 02:44:51,560
beautiful weather I can't believe the

3533
02:44:56,740 --> 02:44:54,350
forecast it's going to be wonderful this

3534
02:44:58,300 --> 02:44:56,750
weekend it's going to be great yeah yeah

3535
02:44:59,889 --> 02:44:58,310
there you go yeah all right we'll see

3536
02:45:01,450 --> 02:44:59,899
you tomorrow North America here's their

3537
02:45:02,380 --> 02:45:01,460
Jimmy thank you for everything

3538
02:45:05,620 --> 02:45:02,390
we'll see you tomorrow night at the

3539
02:45:08,490 --> 02:45:05,630
reception you bet taste everybody good

3540
02:45:10,179 --> 02:45:08,500
night Tim good night Paul in Titanic

3541
02:45:13,870 --> 02:45:10,189
there you go

3542
02:45:17,550 --> 02:45:13,880
Paul Andrews and Tim Gunn the and in

3543
02:45:21,040 --> 02:45:17,560
Victorian of course you know crystal the

3544
02:45:24,190 --> 02:45:21,050
producers of the event and it's going to

3545
02:45:27,460 --> 02:45:24,200
be a great time and I can't I can't even

3546
02:45:29,980 --> 02:45:27,470
think about how tired those guys are to

3547
02:45:31,630 --> 02:45:29,990
come on the show at 9:30 at night

3548
02:45:35,920 --> 02:45:31,640
because they've been out there all week

3549
02:45:36,940 --> 02:45:35,930
setting up certainly all year and and I

3550
02:45:38,469 --> 02:45:36,950
would just want to thank them for taking

3551
02:45:41,469 --> 02:45:38,479
the time to come on tonight because

3552
02:45:43,450 --> 02:45:41,479
they're very excited you know to have

3553
02:45:45,179 --> 02:45:43,460
the fader nuts out there and and

3554
02:45:47,620 --> 02:45:45,189
everybody else that is supporting

3555
02:45:52,240 --> 02:45:47,630
contacting the desert because it is a

3556
02:45:54,429 --> 02:45:52,250
huge huge event thank you Paul and and

3557
02:45:57,429 --> 02:45:54,439
thank you Tim they were they round with

3558
02:45:59,620 --> 02:45:57,439
us last year by the way on Friday night

3559
02:46:02,889 --> 02:45:59,630
and I really look forward to doing it I

3560
02:46:05,469 --> 02:46:02,899
don't know how let me tell you how cool

3561
02:46:09,010 --> 02:46:05,479
Paul is I don't know

3562
02:46:11,050 --> 02:46:09,020
they find the energy but Paul every time

3563
02:46:12,910 --> 02:46:11,060
that Reid and I run into him in public

3564
02:46:16,569 --> 02:46:12,920
and and stuff throughout the year he is

3565
02:46:18,279 --> 02:46:16,579
constantly constantly working on contact

3566
02:46:22,779 --> 02:46:18,289
in the desert he's got these ideas he's

3567
02:46:25,269 --> 02:46:22,789
got these things so at we're at a

3568
02:46:28,540 --> 02:46:25,279
conference a couple of months ago Paul's

3569
02:46:30,609 --> 02:46:28,550
there and also there is River moon

3570
02:46:34,000 --> 02:46:30,619
coffee right Juanita and Jeff are there

3571
02:46:37,149 --> 02:46:34,010
and one thing led to another over a

3572
02:46:40,380 --> 02:46:37,159
brief conversation between Paul as I

3573
02:46:44,529 --> 02:46:40,390
introduced him to money didn't Jeff and

3574
02:46:47,439 --> 02:46:44,539
immediately Paul and and Juanita Jeff

3575
02:46:48,939 --> 02:46:47,449
get put the package together it's like

3576
02:46:50,920 --> 02:46:48,949
you've got to come out I'll make it

3577
02:46:53,979 --> 02:46:50,930
whatever it takes we've got to have

3578
02:46:56,950 --> 02:46:53,989
River moon there and just like that

3579
02:46:58,960 --> 02:46:56,960
that's what Paul is like always forward

3580
02:47:01,149 --> 02:46:58,970
thinking this is a community this is

3581
02:47:03,670 --> 02:47:01,159
family let's all do this together and

3582
02:47:06,130 --> 02:47:03,680
now River moon coffee is going to be

3583
02:47:07,779 --> 02:47:06,140
there along with you know of course the

3584
02:47:10,809 --> 02:47:07,789
fade to black blend but it's about the

3585
02:47:13,500 --> 02:47:10,819
family right it's about the family

3586
02:47:15,729 --> 02:47:13,510
getting together so as this event

3587
02:47:17,739 --> 02:47:15,739
unfolds over the next few days I just

3588
02:47:20,399 --> 02:47:17,749
want you to get the understanding of why

3589
02:47:23,620 --> 02:47:20,409
we're so excited about this it's it's us

3590
02:47:25,599 --> 02:47:23,630
you know it's all friends and family and

3591
02:47:30,729 --> 02:47:25,609
we just get together the event just

3592
02:47:33,550 --> 02:47:30,739
happens to be humongo ginormous but on

3593
02:47:37,149 --> 02:47:33,560
the inside it's just this group of

3594
02:47:39,010 --> 02:47:37,159
friends the fate or not and and and and

3595
02:47:41,620 --> 02:47:39,020
everybody out there that are fans and

3596
02:47:44,200 --> 02:47:41,630
and everybody just knows everybody and

3597
02:47:46,719 --> 02:47:44,210
just like Paul said there's just it's

3598
02:47:50,439 --> 02:47:46,729
just a wonderful community as big as it

3599
02:47:52,569 --> 02:47:50,449
is it's really really cool so there you

3600
02:47:56,050 --> 02:47:52,579
go tickets and info if you guys can

3601
02:47:58,149 --> 02:47:56,060
still make it just go to Jimmy Church

3602
02:48:00,340 --> 02:47:58,159
radio.com and click on the contact' in

3603
02:48:01,389 --> 02:48:00,350
the desert banner certainly you're going

3604
02:48:04,750 --> 02:48:01,399
to be in the air if you're in Southern

3605
02:48:06,939 --> 02:48:04,760
California you're in Arizona Nevada Las

3606
02:48:09,069 --> 02:48:06,949
Vegas and you were thinking about it you

3607
02:48:11,460 --> 02:48:09,079
were contemplating about it Tim easy

3608
02:48:13,840 --> 02:48:11,470
drive just jump in the car and go and

3609
02:48:17,110 --> 02:48:13,850
come and hang out with us all right

3610
02:48:20,230 --> 02:48:17,120
there's room always room for a few more

3611
02:48:27,850 --> 02:48:20,240
all right now man we're winding on down

3612
02:48:36,120 --> 02:48:27,860
here 3 2 3 a 2 5 5 0 4 5 & 3 2 3 2 7 5 9

3613
02:48:38,860 --> 02:48:36,130
6 9 5 all right I wanted to share this

3614
02:48:41,440 --> 02:48:38,870
check this out and I've got a bunch of

3615
02:48:45,070 --> 02:48:41,450
really cool emails here

3616
02:48:48,930 --> 02:48:45,080
Rita let me let me get to this there is

3617
02:48:52,330 --> 02:48:48,940
uh this is huge

3618
02:48:56,350 --> 02:48:52,340
okay all right all right

3619
02:49:00,520 --> 02:48:56,360
hey should I talk about this Rita the

3620
02:49:02,710 --> 02:49:00,530
the pit of the UFOs near Pittsburgh hit

3621
02:49:05,051 --> 02:49:02,720
me right now and let me know and

3622
02:49:06,100 --> 02:49:05,061
something is going on here let me try

3623
02:49:10,270 --> 02:49:06,110
this one more time

3624
02:49:12,220 --> 02:49:10,280
nope ain't ain't happening all right

3625
02:49:15,011 --> 02:49:12,230
let's just go back to the phones I can't

3626
02:49:16,780 --> 02:49:15,021
get I can't get my messenger to work

3627
02:49:19,810 --> 02:49:16,790
through the RISM hi you're live on paid

3628
02:49:22,630 --> 02:49:19,820
to block who's calling hey Jimmy

3629
02:49:27,220 --> 02:49:22,640
[\h__\h] MA JK from New York hey JK from New

3630
02:49:31,150 --> 02:49:27,230
York how are you great whats cracka hey

3631
02:49:33,430 --> 02:49:31,160
in your in your I want to ask you uh in

3632
02:49:37,511 --> 02:49:33,440
York because I see you in the chat room

3633
02:49:41,110 --> 02:49:37,521
right ah your is that a guitar what is

3634
02:49:44,500 --> 02:49:41,120
that oh do you didn't click on it it's

3635
02:49:51,130 --> 02:49:44,510
actually well it is it's a picture it's

3636
02:49:54,070 --> 02:49:51,140
an album cover of of what it's 1973 it's

3637
02:49:56,860 --> 02:49:54,080
up like a British rock band from back

3638
02:50:00,100 --> 02:49:56,870
then called bebop deluxe Oh

3639
02:50:02,680 --> 02:50:00,110
bebop de la that was that was it that's

3640
02:50:05,770 --> 02:50:02,690
their first hell yeah I know I knew I

3641
02:50:08,860 --> 02:50:05,780
knew I knew that and I couldn't put my

3642
02:50:11,140 --> 02:50:08,870
finger on it but also you know it's it's

3643
02:50:15,670 --> 02:50:11,150
smaller yeah I didn't click on it bebop

3644
02:50:18,820 --> 02:50:15,680
deluxe man that was an active that's the

3645
02:50:21,460 --> 02:50:18,830
album name and the first song that's the

3646
02:50:24,880 --> 02:50:21,470
best song on it yeah cuz I remember when

3647
02:50:27,820 --> 02:50:24,890
I was a kid when I was a kid in the mid

3648
02:50:30,120 --> 02:50:27,830
70s somebody came up to me goes man

3649
02:50:33,719 --> 02:50:30,130
screw Black Sabbath fan

3650
02:50:35,939 --> 02:50:33,729
bebop deluxe all right I'd totally

3651
02:50:37,950 --> 02:50:35,949
remember this you know he was a couple

3652
02:50:40,139 --> 02:50:37,960
of years older than me and you know and

3653
02:50:43,019 --> 02:50:40,149
I was all intimidated you know that the

3654
02:50:45,120 --> 02:50:43,029
old got the 18 year old at the Music

3655
02:50:47,010 --> 02:50:45,130
Store that knew every album in the

3656
02:50:48,870 --> 02:50:47,020
history of man and you're like fifteen

3657
02:50:50,700 --> 02:50:48,880
years old going in for the tips on the

3658
02:50:53,280 --> 02:50:50,710
next big thing you know what I'm talking

3659
02:50:56,099 --> 02:50:53,290
about man I missed those days right well

3660
02:50:58,469 --> 02:50:56,109
it was one of those cats bebop deluxe

3661
02:51:01,229 --> 02:50:58,479
man is the secret stuff man you got to

3662
02:51:02,729 --> 02:51:01,239
check this out so anyway they carry

3663
02:51:04,969 --> 02:51:02,739
different there they got some weird

3664
02:51:09,240 --> 02:51:04,979
songs down there but they're good

3665
02:51:11,070 --> 02:51:09,250
musicians and songwriters anyway so

3666
02:51:13,080 --> 02:51:11,080
what's on your mind tonight we're almost

3667
02:51:17,280 --> 02:51:13,090
at the end of the show and you've called

3668
02:51:19,649 --> 02:51:17,290
it so what's on your mind well I just

3669
02:51:22,500 --> 02:51:19,659
wanted to the point I won't get to depth

3670
02:51:26,820 --> 02:51:22,510
on over here but concerns your favorite

3671
02:51:31,889 --> 02:51:26,830
takes music and alien contact via crop

3672
02:51:33,540 --> 02:51:31,899
circles what this researcher I have a

3673
02:51:35,969 --> 02:51:33,550
book I haven't read in 10 years like

3674
02:51:40,679 --> 02:51:35,979
Cole and Wilson yeah Colin Wilson yes

3675
02:51:43,670 --> 02:51:40,689
Ellen will say yeah he one of chapters

3676
02:51:47,580 --> 02:51:43,680
is called crop circles and frozen music

3677
02:51:49,559 --> 02:51:47,590
now in there he states how you know the

3678
02:51:52,550 --> 02:51:49,569
Doug and Dave guys that supposedly made

3679
02:51:55,290 --> 02:51:52,560
all the crop circles right none of their

3680
02:51:59,479 --> 02:51:55,300
none of the ones they made have diatonic

3681
02:52:02,250 --> 02:51:59,489
ratios amendment and the ones he

3682
02:52:05,370 --> 02:52:02,260
investigated over so many years like 2/3

3683
02:52:07,830 --> 02:52:05,380
of them do and I guess they have some

3684
02:52:11,429 --> 02:52:07,840
they were trying to communicate some I

3685
02:52:14,370 --> 02:52:11,439
can't get into the you know all the

3686
02:52:16,530 --> 02:52:14,380
details but what he think he found out

3687
02:52:19,050 --> 02:52:16,540
was when you lay out it's the same way

3688
02:52:24,349 --> 02:52:19,060
for a guitar and a piano you're the low

3689
02:52:29,609 --> 02:52:24,359
C going up to a high C the ratios are

3690
02:52:33,570 --> 02:52:29,619
using 440 at a you give C a value of 1

3691
02:52:36,000 --> 02:52:33,580
which is 264 and it goes up its the

3692
02:52:41,519 --> 02:52:36,010
increments don't aren't logical and it

3693
02:52:43,710 --> 02:52:41,529
blows my mind because D is 297 but the

3694
02:52:47,940 --> 02:52:43,720
difference

3695
02:52:51,240 --> 02:52:47,950
from C to D as a whole step is 33 to 64

3696
02:52:55,130 --> 02:52:51,250
to 297 okay then the next from D to e

3697
02:52:59,160 --> 02:52:55,140
that's also a whole step that's also 33

3698
02:53:01,080 --> 02:52:59,170
vibration cycles per second so you would

3699
02:53:05,700 --> 02:53:01,090
logically think from E to F as a half

3700
02:53:08,610 --> 02:53:05,710
step what's half of 33 well it's it's

3701
02:53:12,200 --> 02:53:08,620
not sixteen point five it's 20 the

3702
02:53:14,990 --> 02:53:12,210
actual value of the difference in is 22

3703
02:53:17,580 --> 02:53:15,000
which makes then it gets even stranger

3704
02:53:20,370 --> 02:53:17,590
when you go from F to G which is a whole

3705
02:53:24,630 --> 02:53:20,380
step is now 33 like it was from C to D

3706
02:53:26,880 --> 02:53:24,640
indeed E it's 44 that's right MBDA is

3707
02:53:28,710 --> 02:53:26,890
also 44 then you get from A to B which

3708
02:53:29,519 --> 02:53:28,720
is also whole step that's fifty five

3709
02:53:32,550 --> 02:53:29,529
mm-hm

3710
02:53:37,500 --> 02:53:32,560
and then for B to C which is a half step

3711
02:53:39,540 --> 02:53:37,510
is 33 where the first two numbers I told

3712
02:53:42,090 --> 02:53:39,550
you four whole steps they're also 33 but

3713
02:53:45,030 --> 02:53:42,100
B to C it's a half stuff that's also 33

3714
02:53:49,679 --> 02:53:45,040
but it's a B Stefano it's a half step in

3715
02:53:51,090 --> 02:53:49,689
a whole note yeah and the number you

3716
02:53:54,240 --> 02:53:51,100
know what I mean that the fractions are

3717
02:53:56,400 --> 02:53:54,250
weird I mean it's a human years as a DNA

3718
02:53:58,530 --> 02:53:56,410
it's a music is just stranger than we

3719
02:54:00,660 --> 02:53:58,540
think her what you know I used to always

3720
02:54:04,110 --> 02:54:00,670
trip on that and it's funny that you're

3721
02:54:08,639 --> 02:54:04,120
bringing that up because e to F and B to

3722
02:54:14,099 --> 02:54:08,649
C always messed with my head yeah right

3723
02:54:17,460 --> 02:54:14,109
but musically it works but it shouldn't

3724
02:54:19,620 --> 02:54:17,470
right right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

3725
02:54:22,320 --> 02:54:19,630
yeah yeah yeah when you look at a guitar

3726
02:54:24,900 --> 02:54:22,330
the frets it did that then it throws you

3727
02:54:27,809 --> 02:54:24,910
completely off on it cuz they're kind of

3728
02:54:31,170 --> 02:54:27,819
distances get smaller by physically for

3729
02:54:33,840 --> 02:54:31,180
the frets but yet the vibrations per

3730
02:54:37,110 --> 02:54:33,850
second or whatever are totally different

3731
02:54:41,309 --> 02:54:37,120
ratios but you go over to a piano on the

3732
02:54:43,650 --> 02:54:41,319
white keys right okay it makes sense but

3733
02:54:47,130 --> 02:54:43,660
when you move it over to a guitar and

3734
02:54:49,380 --> 02:54:47,140
you are trying to work especially if

3735
02:54:51,840 --> 02:54:49,390
your guitar player and you go to a piano

3736
02:54:53,880 --> 02:54:51,850
it doesn't make any sense and if your

3737
02:54:56,640 --> 02:54:53,890
penis or you know keyboardist and you

3738
02:54:59,791 --> 02:54:56,650
try to flip over to guitar

3739
02:55:02,761 --> 02:54:59,801
it messes you up because it is not the

3740
02:55:06,570 --> 02:55:02,771
same it's not but music in your ears

3741
02:55:08,700 --> 02:55:06,580
it's the same but it's it's just it's

3742
02:55:11,461 --> 02:55:08,710
it's trippy man it's trippy I don't even

3743
02:55:13,860 --> 02:55:11,471
know how guitar players learn how to

3744
02:55:15,600 --> 02:55:13,870
play guitar I you know a keyboard is is

3745
02:55:16,950 --> 02:55:15,610
laid out and it makes sense you've got

3746
02:55:18,270 --> 02:55:16,960
the half-step so you've got the holes

3747
02:55:20,551 --> 02:55:18,280
and you've got the Black Keys in the

3748
02:55:22,680 --> 02:55:20,561
white keys and boom you got octaves

3749
02:55:26,251 --> 02:55:22,690
right one of you and you could just you

3750
02:55:28,410 --> 02:55:26,261
know mathematically and logic comes into

3751
02:55:31,081 --> 02:55:28,420
play you move all of that over to a

3752
02:55:34,801 --> 02:55:31,091
guitar especially when you're looking at

3753
02:55:37,140 --> 02:55:34,811
things like the B and E string with the

3754
02:55:38,820 --> 02:55:37,150
g string right there the tuning is just

3755
02:55:41,700 --> 02:55:38,830
completely whacked out it doesn't make

3756
02:55:43,650 --> 02:55:41,710
any sense and then the way that the

3757
02:55:46,650 --> 02:55:43,660
fretboard is laid out and you have these

3758
02:55:49,261 --> 02:55:46,660
half steps that are whole note it's it's

3759
02:55:53,640 --> 02:55:49,271
just confusing it's not it's not all the

3760
02:55:56,761 --> 02:55:53,650
same like it is on a piano yeah that

3761
02:55:58,591 --> 02:55:56,771
kind of really at all yeah I don't know

3762
02:56:00,001 --> 02:55:58,601
how we gotta wrap my head around yeah I

3763
02:56:02,461 --> 02:56:00,011
can't either I can't either

3764
02:56:05,160 --> 02:56:02,471
you know the guitar makes sense to me I

3765
02:56:07,591 --> 02:56:05,170
can't play the piano or keyboards to

3766
02:56:10,350 --> 02:56:07,601
save my life you know it's it's really

3767
02:56:12,871 --> 02:56:10,360
weird I have a the most difficult time

3768
02:56:15,091 --> 02:56:12,881
well Jake a thank you for calling in my

3769
02:56:16,890 --> 02:56:15,101
friend I love talking little music and a

3770
02:56:19,621 --> 02:56:16,900
little UFO that's the best part of this

3771
02:56:21,001 --> 02:56:19,631
show thank you so much all right thanks

3772
02:56:22,770 --> 02:56:21,011
Jimmy have a good night have a good time

3773
02:56:25,950 --> 02:56:22,780
contact in the desert and we'll see you

3774
02:56:27,091 --> 02:56:25,960
Friday night on the show oh yeah thank

3775
02:56:29,251 --> 02:56:27,101
all right have a good night

3776
02:56:33,051 --> 02:56:29,261
you got it Jake a from New York

3777
02:56:35,730 --> 02:56:33,061
everybody wrapping up another fabulous

3778
02:56:38,400 --> 02:56:35,740
Fator night thank you guys so much and

3779
02:56:42,270 --> 02:56:38,410
obviously I got to get out of here close

3780
02:56:46,410 --> 02:56:42,280
down the bunker pack up gear and get

3781
02:56:48,600 --> 02:56:46,420
ready to hit the road tomorrow and Reed

3782
02:56:49,890 --> 02:56:48,610
and I are going to arrive in Joshua Tree

3783
02:56:51,961 --> 02:56:49,900
tomorrow afternoon so we'll see

3784
02:56:54,450 --> 02:56:51,971
everybody there until then good night

3785
02:56:57,030 --> 02:56:54,460
everybody we'll see everybody Friday

3786
02:57:00,450 --> 02:56:57,040
night here on fade to black and in

3787
02:57:02,001 --> 02:57:00,460
between the Joshua Tree saloon tomorrow

3788
02:57:04,020 --> 02:57:02,011
night all right all you phaidor knots

3789
02:57:05,310 --> 02:57:04,030
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3790
02:57:08,059 --> 02:57:05,320
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3791
02:57:09,410 --> 02:57:08,069
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02:57:12,080 --> 02:57:09,420
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3796
02:57:20,870 --> 02:57:17,460
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3806
02:57:50,389 --> 02:57:47,040
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02:57:52,490 --> 02:57:50,399
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02:58:09,710 --> 02:58:07,410
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02:58:14,220 --> 02:58:09,720
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